Encounter the wisdom of high-vibrational beings and the transformative journey of spiritual awakening with Lena Jung, a powerhouse of knowledge and profound insight. In this episode, we delve into Lena’s extraordinary experiences following the passing of her husband, Tomas, and how she began receiving messages from a collective group of spirits known as The Drops. Lena, who holds two PhDs in energy market development, an executive MBA, and over twenty years of experience in the media and energy industries, shares her remarkable story of channeling The Drops, offering Ayurvedic consultations, shamanic journeys, and Jungian coaching. Join us as we explore shadow work, the fascinating examples of communication from the deceased, and how Lena’s experiences have ignited her soul purpose and led her to guide others through significant life transitions, all the way from Slovenia to Uganda.
IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL HEAR ABOUT THINGS LIKE:
- Love and connection can transcend physical death and continue in other forms.
- Out-of-body experiences can provide profound spiritual understanding and growth.
- Healing involves facing and integrating the “shadow self,” or hidden aspects of oneself.
- Spiritual guidance and messages can come through various channels, including dreams and intuitive insights.
- Difficult life experiences often serve as preparation for a deeper purpose and greater understanding.
- Raising personal vibration contributes to positive change and healing on a larger scale.
- Even in moments of grief and challenge, joy and fulfillment are possible.
SOME QUESTIONS IRENE ASKS LENA:
- Could you tell us about Tomas and your relationship with him, and what happened when he got sick?
- Can you describe shadow work and how it helps with healing?
- What did you learn from The Drops, and what was their primary mission for you?
- What was your experience with out-of-body experiences?
- How is Tomas inspiring you to support people in healing and contribute to raising the vibration on the planet?
- Can you describe each of your healing modalities (Ayurvedic consultation, shamanic journey, Jungian coaching) and how you combine them?
- Why is it important for people to heal?
- What is your tip for finding joy in life?
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Lena Jung: Channeling High-Vibrational Beings to Heal and Reconnect with Your Soul’s True Purpose
You are going to love my interview with Lena Jung about the out-of-body experiences she had after her husband Tomas passed. You’re going to want to read how Tomas communicated with Lena while he was in a coma for 30 days before he transitioned. You’ll love reading about how Lena started receiving messages from a collective group of spirits, which she calls The Drops. Lena and I also talked about shadow work and how important that is to healing. You’re going to love Lena. You’re going to love this interview. Come join us. Many blessings.
I could not be more delighted to have the pleasure of interviewing the remarkable Lena Jung, who hails from Slovenia, a jewel of Central Europe, nestled beneath the majestic Alps with a gateway to the Adriatic Sea. Known as the Green Pearl of Europe, Slovenia symbolizes balance, nature, hope, growth, and renewal.
In many ways, Lena herself embodies these qualities. With two PhDs in energy market development and an executive MBA and over twenty years of experience in the media and energy industries. She’s a powerhouse of knowledge and expertise. Yet Lena’s talents extend far beyond her academic and professional accolades. She channels a collective of high vibrational beings called The Drops, offering profound spiritual wisdom. She is a gifted healer, skilled in a variety of modalities, including Ayurvedic consultations, shamanic journeys, and Jungian coaching.
By weaving together her diverse professional background and spiritual gifts, Lena provides transformative insights and guidance to her clients, many of whom are high-achieving women, navigating significant life transitions. It is truly very special to have Lena with us in this episode, and even more so because she is speaking to us from Uganda.
I’m looking forward to talking with her about her out-of-body experiences, the fascinating examples of her deceased husband communicating with her, how channeling The Drops helped Lena to heal and reignite her soul purpose, her package of offerings, including Ayurvedic consultations, shamanic journeys, channeling and Jungian coaching, what is shadow work and more for what is sure to be an unforgettable interview filled with life changing insights. Lena, a truly heartfelt welcome to the show. It’s such a pleasure to have you here and I can’t believe you’re speaking to us from Uganda.
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I can’t, either. Thank you for having me, Irene. I’m really honored, really. Thank you.
I’m thrilled to have you here. It’s just wonderful. I just want to ask you, you’ve been following the show for a while. This helped you when you lost your husband, right?
Exactly. First, your book. I came across one of the episodes where you were speaking about your experience, and then I got your book and then I started following your podcast. A big thank you to you as well.
Slovenia’s Lone Wolf: Lena’s Formative Years
Thank you. We’re a mutual admiration society here. Thank you so much. I’m really thrilled. I want everybody to get to know you, Lena, before we get to this amazing healing work that you’re doing in the world. Could you describe your childhood in Slovenia? Could you call yourself a lone wolf and explain how this solitary childhood kept you in touch with your inner world, which you did not know at the time was preparing you for what you’re doing now, I’m sure?
Yeah, that’s true. I was there. I didn’t take it a tough life, but I was just taking it. I was just going with the flow. When I saw that I need to provide for myself, I started working when I was nine, to be honest, in a company. I started selling our product in the local fairs. I remember that I needed to wake up at 4:00 or 5:00 in the morning, which was really tough for a kid, even for an adult, I would say. Not for me now that much. Yeah, I do remember when it was tough for me when I was even an adult, but for a kid, even more so.
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Yeah, I do remember those beginnings. When life become a bit tougher and I was even a minor, I needed to get a job. It was a regular educational program that I attended as a high schooler. I attended a gymnasium and every day after the class, I went to work in the jewelry store and then I was rushing home to be there before it was really super dark so that I’m home by a normal timing and that I’m safe. Things escalated, so to speak.
You had a lot of things happen in your childhood. Did you have siblings?
Yeah, I have sister with who is seven years younger than me. That was also a part of my, I would say, childhood experience because I needed to take care of her quite early. My parents at the time were working a lot when we had this family company, so they were not around much. I tend to think that human perspective, not now talking about the soul plan, but from a human perspective, I think that’s why I also didn’t have this hormonal state when I would be in the need to have kids.
Me and my husband were always like, “No, we are okay without kids.” I even had in my mind that if we were to have kids, we would adopt because there are so many kids, unfortunately, around the globe who need parents and we would just adopt. It never came to this because we didn’t even go into the process. We were happy as it was and we just adopted the dogs.
You had a tough childhood because the family company bankrupted. There was a time you didn’t even have a roof over your head. You’re working through all of this and you were struggling in daily survival in high school and then your family fell apart.
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At the time, I didn’t see it as something that’s devastating because I was so much into daily things. I needed to survive so I didn’t pay attention to, “That’s not normal,” or something. No. I was just devoted and really determined that I’m going to make it. When Tomas actually left this physical realm, it was the first time when I was speaking out loud in the forest, I was speaking to a creator or a God. I don’t know who I was addressing, but something powerful beyond me. I was really rude. I won’t repeat the words, but because I was so mad. He just left.
“Hasn’t enough been heap to bond me more?”
Yeah. Do I need more? Really? What have I done? That was actually the first time that I saw this also the past that I had in such a way that, I don’t want to say bad things, sorry, but I was really like, “What the F? What’s happening?”
I can relate.
The message came instantly because I remember going back, “Wasn’t it enough when I was a teenager and there was no mercy for me?” I never complained as a teenager. The message came like, “Exactly because of that, that was the training because of that you can manage this now.” I was like, “Okay.” It was so strong that I was just humble and I’m sorry that I behaved that way because I just understood it was so, so powerful.
Soulmate Connection: The Love Story of Lena & Tomas
You’re human. We’re allowed to be human. I have to say that, honestly, I had a very tough childhood also. I really feel that like you, in certain ways, it’s helped me to where I am now because I can understand when people talk about that they had suffered emotional abuse or what they want, I did too. I yield it so I can understand it. Same thing. It seems to be we were both prepared for where we are now. Could you tell us about Tomas and how you met him? You were only nineteen years old and talk about your relationship with him and then I want to talk about what happened when he got so sick and transitioned for you.
We met when I was working as a student in a bar. I was serving him coffee. He was a customer, so he was a regular. To be honest with you, I didn’t like him. His appearance, he was not attractive to me. It was the first time that I fell in love with the charisma and the energy that he was carrying. When we were together, actually, he made fun that he is like a wine getting better and better by each year passing.
That was actually true because I was very much in love with him towards the end. Also, of course, after we met, I fell in love really deeply. Our love really deepened throughout the years. We were together for more than half of our lives here in this incarnation, so to say. Yeah, it was very strong. Since we didn’t have kids, he was actually everything to me.
How much older was he than you?
Only two years. The thing is that even ever since I was a child, I was a kid, I hang out with the books. Even in elementary school, my day was after class, I went to the library, get another book, then return the yesterday’s one, go back home and connect with the book and then do some learning. The books were my friends all the time, meaning that I didn’t really nourish the relationships with other people because Tomas was enough to me.
After that, when he passed, everything turned around. As you have already mentioned the shadow work, I can also say that two days after his passing, I’ve had the first module in Jungian coaching and it was a shadow work. Actually, the message that I got from that shadow work was now it’s time to live your life outside the books.
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Can you describe for people who are reading and don’t have never heard about shadow work, what is shadow work? I’m going to reference that again in another question later on, but what is shadow work exactly? Is that about the part of us that we keep hidden? How does that work when you’re trying to heal to bring that out?
Actually, it’s working with our shadow. We have different roles in life. We develop certain behaviors. Of course there are things that are hidden that we maybe suppress in order to serve better, to be better, to appear better for the others, maybe parents starting with parents than the school system, then at the job, then with the friends, to keep somebody like a spouse or something.
We suppress ourselves and we don’t acknowledge everything that we are and we carry so much more than just these roles. It comes from Carl Jung, a famous Swiss psychotherapist and psychoanalytic. There are different methods on how we can do shadow work, but basically, I can share the experience how I did it two days after my love passed.
From the gum, like the plasteline, we needed to create a figure. I created a bear. I picked the brown color, and then some black color. It was a bear. I was not thinking about it because you are let through the process. This bear appeared in front of me and I needed to name him. I needed to develop dialogue with the bear. Everything that we carry in, we are projecting it all the time to other people and the world around us. You are a led to project this in the figure that you have in front of you. Let it be this bear or some picture that you can have. You develop a dialogue and you pose a question.
I don’t remember exactly what my question was, but for sure it was something in connection to what is my purpose now because I lost my purpose when, or seemingly, I thought that I lost my purpose when he was gone from this world. I just wanted to die. That can easily be connected then also to the out of body experiences because I literally wanted to die. You speak for the figure as well. It’s like coming from one chair, I pose a question as Lena and then I respond the question coming to the other side.
In a way, the bear represents the hidden parts of you that you haven’t really dealt with, that you’ve been covering so that you keep your mask to the world, would you say?
The thing is, we are not putting on the mask only for the world. Eventually, we put it on also for ourselves, which is the hardest part then to deal with. People even don’t want to go into that because they’re just afraid to dig deeper. To me, I got some a invitation from one of the, I would say, teachers in this spiritual realm. He said something along these lines that if I would work with him, I would get to know my shadows. I literally did the work with my shadows and I’m ever since I’m doing that, so I can be transparent with myself within and then also with the world, because I don’t have anything to lose.
I have done a lot of that too. The beauty of it is when you’re helping people to heal your shadow work, which is healed, it isn’t getting in the way of that. Now you’re more of a pure channel, right?
Exactly.
Messages from Beyond: Tomas’ Coma & Spiritual Communication
I want to ask you about Tomas. You had a dream and he came into your dream the night before you got the call from the hospital that he had passed, and you also had a sign that was in the hospital waiting for you. I want everyone to understand that spirit was working with you. You didn’t quite know what was going on, but you were getting signs and all. I also want to ask you why was Tomas in a coma for 30 days? He was obviously very sick, right?
Yeah. He was diagnosed with cancer 1 year and 2 months before he passed, or something like that. He was very ill already at home. That was at the end of 2021. He wanted to deal with the cancer on his own. We studied so many things, what can we do together. He was trying to do so many things. I don’t want to say that he didn’t believe in the conventional medicine, but he said like, “I’m responsible for my own health. I should do the work.” He also had, among others this diet, which is basing on the juices. It’s just the squeezed juices from vegetables. I was actually determined to go and do this path with him.
Basically, we were doing 35 fasting path together. Actually, the body can last that long without eating. We are different, we’re individuals, but still it can be done. We have so big intelligence that we carry here and we call it like a meat suit, but I have such a big respect for this meat suit because I call it an intelligence.
Our amazing meat suits, yes.
It’s intelligence. After we did this diet, he had a lymphoma, so everything got blocked in his system. They took him to a hospital. When it was really bad, I called the ambulance. At that time, they saved his life. He also lost his life for a few seconds. He stayed in the hospital for a full month and they have given him chemo. He needed to return every month for a few days to get additional doses. At the end, he was going through chemo.
In May, 2022, he came out of the hospital and actually, before he got diagnosed, we were already planning to build a house together. He was so determined to build a house that actually, this was his main focus when he got out. At the beginning of November, the house was done. We built a beautiful wooden house made out of Slovenian wood, and it is just an amazing house. I call her a house of love.
It’s your nest, your sanctuary, I’m sure of that.
The closest neighbor is the forest. It’s beautiful, really. He was really determined to finish that project. When we moved in, in November, we were together only for one month in the house when he started to feel really bad again. First, it appeared as a cold or virus, and the doctors really didn’t actually take it so seriously because it seemed as a virus. He didn’t have any treatment, I would say. It got so bad, I called the oncology saying that I have a really bad feeling. I was even pushy to get him back in just to check on him because we didn’t know what’s wrong. The oncologist said, “Maybe on Monday.” I remember it was Friday, and I said, “I don’t think he is going to make it to Monday.”
He said, “Okay, bring him in,” and I did. They accepted him. Two days later, a phone call came during the night and the doctor said, “We needed to put him in coma. Something happened and we are not aware of what.” Until the very end, we were not sure what exactly it is officially, but now I know, so we’ll find a way to exit. That was his way. Actually, when looking back, he lasted in coma for exactly 30 days. That was really a soft and gentle way of him saying bye to this world.
He eased out and gave you a little more time with him, right?
Yes, it’s true because we connected during that time. Also, he had this therapist and his soul was communicating through that therapist. She was able to share his messages with me. There was no chance she would have such information, what was going on. That amazed me. When I look back at that time, it was not amazing to me. In the same way when talking about my childhood, I was not in that period when it was most stressful. I didn’t think about, “Does this make sense? Is this normal for such a kid?” Here, again, I didn’t wonder, is it normal that I’m getting his messages?
You just didn’t question it. You just accepted it. Could you give us an example of a message you were getting while he was in a coma?
Yeah, for example, one was like, “Should we move somewhere near the sea?” He said, “This is not a question that you that you ask a soul because you know the answer, so I’m not going to even bother.” This is so much in line with how he functioned as a human. He was a person who used his cynical part in a really funny way, and the black humor. I just love that part of him. Many people couldn’t understand it but to me, that was a really high sophisticated humor. This is a vibe he was using also as a soul. The therapist got it as well.
Not only that, he’s in a coma and he is coming through with a style in a way that absolutely identifies that it’s him, which is amazing and so wonderful. He also came into your dream the night before he passed. Do you want to tell us about that? While he’s in a coma, he is messaging you the night before he passed. What was that like?
To be honest, I don’t remember having a dream of him in those 30 days, but that dream before I got the call from the doctor, I remember like it was yesterday. Yeah, he was in my dream, very vividly present. He already appeared. It was like an introduction. “Now I’m going to look like this,” or something, because he was not Tomas as I knew him as human, but he was bigger. He was a soul, he was bigger energy, bigger presence. Do you remember that I was negotiating with him even though he appeared bigger than me because I was still a human. Yeah, my soul was doing this astral journey, or however we call it, but still, he was a bit bigger. I do remember I was so brave going like, “Now you come back.” He was just giving me something that I could translate to nineteen.
It stayed with me. I remember I was even in a dream, I was happy, “Okay, I made it. I negotiated that he comes back for nineteen more years. It’s not much, but it’s something I’m okay because I’ve negotiated.” I was super happy. When I woke up, I was just a bit puzzled. I did my morning routine, I took the dogs out, and then I got a call when I was walking the dogs. I was in the forest, I got the call. I just remember I started screaming out loud, like it was just a scream from the depth of my being.
I’m now grateful to the forest because the forest actually took a lot of my energy that needed to be unleashed at that time. Yeah, what I know by now, the message was that in nineteen years, we will meet again. Just not that long ago, I got another dream where there was, among others, also Krishna. One of the messages, because it was such a vivid dream, I also won’t forget ever probably. I was shown that the period got longer.
You have more to go until you meet him again. That’s really fascinating. I know that at his funeral, his stepfather or your stepdad had an experience with Tomas at the funeral. It’s not even that this stuff is coming through you, but now it’s going through to your stepdad. Do you want to tell us what that was about? Tomas was very busy. He had transitioned, but he was very active. He has a big soul.
My stepdad is totally not spiritual.
Which makes It even more believable when someone isn’t spiritual and they get a message like that, right?
Yeah. Also, I wasn’t that spiritual. I was more open and I allowed things to be. Before answering your question, I’m just going to say it was so interesting also that at some point, Tomas said something but that was far before all this whole story. He said, “If I die, I promise I won’t be coming back to scare you.” “What are you talking about?” It was in a funny way, and it got me thinking that we have so much information, so many information already in us, what’s to happen but we don’t think about them as truth being just planted in that this might follow. We just remember later on, which you might also have some experiences of.
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My stepdad saw him.
He could literally see him? He saw him at the funeral, he was able to see him?
He saw him driving with the bicycle, cycling and passing the whole group of people who were there. He said that Tomas said, “There are so many of you,” and then he was gone. That was his experience. He said he was so alive, he was like here. Before the funeral, at least in Slovenia, you spent some time there and people gather and so on. At some point, my mom, maybe she went to the toilet or something and she was returning back to me and she said, “I swear to God, I saw Tomas standing next to you. When I reached you, he was gone.” Again, my mom, she’s like me. She’s open, but she’s not into this thing.
Did that change their minds a little bit? Did it open them up a little bit?
Yes.
The Drops Revealed: Channeling High-Vibrational Beings
That’s what happens a lot of times with people. That’s amazing. It’s actually proving to everyone that love never dies because there he is with you. They didn’t believe and they’re seeing him, and it’s at his funeral. Saul was at his funeral. I’ve also learned that many people are at their funerals. Lena, you’re so grounded, you have two phds, which is awesome, and all the things you’ve done. Now all of a sudden, you’re getting messages from this benevolent group of beings named The Drops at his funeral.
It’s not that enough is happening to you. Your mom and your stepdad are seeing him and all that, but now you’re getting messages from The Drops. What did you learn from them? What was their primary mission for you? Did you immediately start channeling them? How did that help you to heal and reignite or maybe ignite your soul purpose? I’m not sure you were totally in touch with your soul purpose yet. What did you discover from all of that? That’s amazing that that happened to you.
Actually, The Drops revealed my, I would say, soul purpose. They came in because as I mentioned, I wanted to die. They came in as I would say, carriers for me, holders of my space, I would say also nurturing beings for me. They revealed so much. At the beginning, I kept posing some questions to Tomas. There were even questions like, “Why the Holocaust? Why are we slaughtering all these animals for meat production in such a way?” The questions are like, “Why did the colonization happen?”
I’d love to know the answers to that.
I kept asking but I was asking Tomas. The Drops took over. I know that it was also Tomas’s power that got them together because it’s twelve beings being in the group and they come from different backgrounds.
It sounds like a fantasy, but it’s not.
It’s like science fiction. Yeah. I know he put them together to keep me going at the time.
Do you think that on the other side he gathered them together?
Yeah.
How do they present to you? Do you just hear them? Do you see them? How do you get the messages from them? What’s that experience like?
It’s always different because when I channel, it depends also on the person that I’m channeling for or if I channel for myself, they can also come in different forms. Now when I’m in Uganda doing this retreat for refugees from Sudan, I was missing them because the whole day long, I’m devoted to people who are here. We do yoga. I teach them yoga. I already consultations and so on, but I’m very much with people. I’m alone only in the morning when I have my morning routine. In the evening, I already message them, “I miss you,” because if I would have more alone time, it would come spontaneously. What they did was so amazing.
That was two days ago when I messaged them in my mind, “I miss you.” That was I think the first time that I send them a message, “Guys, I miss you. Come.” What happened was the very next day, we have three different groups of people coming in for three retreats. When the second group came, second group of people for the retreat, we started yoga. One of the ladies, one of the participants was late.
I remember I was on the ground and showing the asana to the participants who are there already. She came in and she appeared a bit above me because she passed me and I saw her t-shirt and it was a blue t-shirt. Usually, The Drops come for me in blue hoodies, like they’re super cool, even though some of them come from, I don’t know, like a Mesopotamian times 10,000 years ago and so on. She wore this blue shirt or a thicker shirt. She had a sign on like, “Droplet.’
What a message. Why do you call them The Drops? Did they tell you that they’re The Drops?
Yeah, because before they came in as a group, I saw the source because I was doing a lot of these journeys. Also, when I dream, when I meditate, and also the out of body experiences, they led me to this source and the source appeared as a really vast body of water. The Drops come from this vast body of water. Directly coming from the source as The Drops.
It’s so fascinating. I want to ask you, because I had an out of body experience also. Were you having spontaneous out-of-body experiences, like it was just happening to you or it happened when you went to sleep? What was that like for you? Were you astral traveling? With me during the accident, I bounced out of my body and I went into the void and then I returned to my body. What was that like for you?
For me, it was during sleep. I think, again, coming also to the analytical mind because I do want to have certain explanations for the things that are happening. When all this started, I applied for a program from a psychotherapeutical propaedeutics just to stay also in the books. Not just to go high up, but also to stay in the scientific world.
Keep yourself grounded.
For out of the out of body experiences, they happened to me when I was sleeping. Also, some messages that I got when I was questioning this was that because the wish to leave this realm was so strong that something happened with my breeding. Actually, when I was really far, I do remember being really far because there were several experiences and at some point, I was among some beings and I was going so high up and they were all pointing to me, “You are so high up.” The next occasion was when I was going up.
You just woke up and then you were right back in your body, right?
Yes, but one occasion was when I was going up, almost going like through the rooftop of my house, and it was like, I would sense the rooftop here. It was interesting because I was not in the body, but I could feel that I’m going up and through the rooftop. Mary Magdalene came. She had a really strong voice saying, “Lena.” It was so strong that I instantly got back in and it was like I am being pulled like this back in the, in the body. I remember waking up and I was still dizzy because of that.
How is Tomas inspiring you to support people in healing to contribute to raising the vibration, the frequency on the planet? Do you want to explain that to everyone? You do amazing healing and he’s really been your inspiration to do this. Can you explain about the need to raise the vibration on this planet and how he is supporting you to do that? You’re part of a bigger plan.
We all are, but I’m aware of it. When he passed in late January, I went to Scotland in June. The purpose of me going to Scotland for a few days was to heal. I wanted to go to Scotland before his illness and all that. By the way, I always traveled alone because he didn’t like to travel.
You’re very courageous.
To me, that was normal. I didn’t think that I’m brave or anything. I went to Scotland and when I was there, and I remember going to bed and before falling totally to sleep, when you are in that stage before totally dropping in, I had in my mind, I’m here for the healing. The message came, “If you say that you need healing, then you are coming from this perspective that you are not wholesome, but you are wholesome.”
“If you’ll say that you need the healing, then you’ll need it. If you say that you are wholesome, you’ll be wholesome.” It was a strong message. Then I was like, “That’s a bit arrogant,” having in mind that I was addressing him like, “You are arrogant. I just lost you.” Still, I accepted it because it was, again, such a strong message. I remember when I went to Edinburgh just to just to be there and enjoy.
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Have the experience.
Try to enjoy the town’s atmosphere. There were these amazing performers musicians, and they were so amazing. What they played just kept running in my mind. When I went to bed that evening, the message came, “You are here to raise a vibration the same way as they are doing it.” It was then clear to me, “I need to do anything possible to raise the vibration.” Ever since, I’m just calling the callings.
Also here in Uganda, it’s no coincidence of course that I’m here and working with refugees from Sudan. Even here, I had a dream a few nights ago and it came in in the local language, which I totally cannot repeat. It was like, “Thank you, and then thank you Tomas.” Actually, it was an African voice coming in, African language for thank you and then Tomas. I know that I’m being so guided and so supported. People here ask me, “Aren’t you tired doing the program every day from morning until the evening?” I’m like, “Do I look tired?” They’re like, “No.” “This is the truth because you’re seeing me.”
It’s because you’re energized and you have passion and you’re filled with a mission. It’s absolutely wonderful. I want everybody to, to learn what you do because you’re a gifted healer. This amazing thing has happened to you, your channel. I would imagine that The Drops help you when you’re helping people to heal too. They probably drop in with information, correct?
Yes. I’m very intuitive, so I just allow for the information to come when I work with people. Also, through channeling, the healing happens. For example, I have channeled for a lady and I do remember because of the time difference, I channel a lot for people from US and Canada and so on and because of the time difference in Europe and US, it was my late evening. I do remember I already have had a shower and then I was planning to go to bed. When I channeled for this lady, I became so sweaty that I needed to have another shower. I asked our spiritual teacher who I had at the time, “What was that about?” She said when certain healing happens, it doesn’t stay with me. At that moment, the body responds.
High-Vibrational Beings: Through channeling, the healing happens.
It was releasing toxins.
Yes, exactly. It’s always a different experience. I did a group channeling not that long ago for a group of people in Slovenia, I did it for the first time in my own language. I do remember that I was sensing so much vibration because it was more than ten people, I think, and it was a small space. After the channeling, then one lady said, I was like on a vibration, just shaking. Not super shaking.
Trembling a little bit, right? I understand.
I didn’t know that I that my body has experienced that. When I got out of the channel, I do remember that I was like sweaty here, but I had totally cold hands.
Isn’t that amazing? Explain to people because I think it’ll be wonderful. They may want to reach out to you for an Ayurvedic consultation. They want to reach out to you for shamanic journey. I know you combine these things together too, the Jungian coaching. Can you describe each of these modalities and explain how they help a person to heal and how you combine them to work with people?
If I do a Jungian coaching program with someone, first I do an Ayurvedic consultation, which is actually to see how a person is. We do a consultation, I ask a few questions which are totally by the book, and then I can see from that how far from the balanced state a person is. Based on a already principles, which by the way, we have three doshas.
Ayurveda is from India. It’s a healing modality from India, right?
Eastern, yeah, we have 3 doshas and they’re all based on 5 elements coming from Mother Nature. These are eater, air, fire, water, and earth. Each of 3 doshas has 2 of these elements. Based on that I can already determine how a person is now and what should be addressed to pacify it. For example, if one is very angry and gets into conflict all the time, then I get to see his fire is up, so I need to address the fire element in the body.
Based on that, I prepare the recommendations for a person and if a person follows them, then I continue to work with the person. If they don’t follow it, then I get to see already they’re not ready for the coaching, really. I won’t spend a person’s time nor I won’t spend my time. After the Ayurvedic consultation, I can also do shamanic tracking, which also means that I connect to the four archetypes of a person.
We all have them. They’re like snake or the serpent, eagle, jaguar and hummingbird. These archetypes, this means that the person stands in front of me for like a minute or so. I usually use a guide, not even a meditation. I just guide the person into the breathing process and that he or she is fully relaxed. I also use the drumming sound. I connected the four archetypes. They also show me how a person is on an emotional, energetical, spiritual or like a physical level as well. Based on that, we continue the work so that we really get a person to the balance state.
You also do have this Jungian coaching that you do too.
This would be a part of the beginning of the program that I have set. It’s like let’s balance our life. Jungian coaching is actually this shadow work that I have described a bit at the beginning, which is inviting a person to really go deeper. I had a person who was severely di depressed, he was even admitted to a psychiatric hospital and we worked together. He tried all possible things that were available to him.
We also did Jungian coaching at the time. It really supported him in his daily job because he had a normal job and normal challenges and all that. He was also dealing with this inner state. At that time, it really worked for him. A person would need to continue. When we unleash the shadows, we are invited to be transparent towards ourselves the whole time. If we go back to what we know, then okay, something was done, but then we get back to so-called normal.
Change is hard for people. A lot of times, they move forward, then I think they get a little nervous or scared and then they take a few steps back and then they have a choice. They can move forward again or stay stuck in a way. Would you agree with that?
I just wanted to say that it has really worked for such a case and this was a really heavy a case. Of course, some people need to work on this consistently and some people can work on it. I have, for example, and now this is with me, it’s a part of me. If there is something to address, for example, I find some person not so nice or something, then I go into myself, what haven’t I liked with the person and what was shown to me because I just projected something that is coming from me to that person. I analyze right away so that I can then let it go. I can see that same person with my fresh eyes.
You’re in a constant state of healing. I think it’s wonderful. I want to ask you also, you have a retreat coming called MYSELF Retreat. You also have an eight-step coaching program. What would you like everyone to know about your retreat and the coaching program?
Yeah, so for coaching program, it’s the starting points are such as I have described before. First, I do a consultation, then shamanic tracking, we can also do some shamanic journey on the way so that the person gets to know more about the soul agreements and we can get all sorts of information there. When we release ourselves, when we allow that, we get the messages from beyond, I would say.
High-Vibrational Beings: When we release ourselves, we get the messages from beyond.
We are very concrete. I get to see if a person wants to achieve something in the career or just change their relationship or just to love themselves more, then I focus. I’m very intuitive. We ask this question, “How am I doing?” Also, we have like seven steps included, like why am I doing this? We really get to the bottom of it.
We then continue with the transformation. That’s the eight-step program. At the end, a person is with all they need for the future and that they eventually don’t need me anymore. This is how I also approach people in, let’s say, just occasional meetings. I really don’t want them to feel dependent on anyone, including me. I want to empower them. This is the only way how we can support each other in sustainable way.
The shamanic journeys. Over there, we can get our power animals, we can meet other beings as well. We can get answers to why we can get a glimpse of one of our other lifetimes that is affecting mostly this lifetime and get the understanding why certain things are happening to us. We get to see that they’re actually happening through us and for us. We are co-creating them.
Let me ask you this, why would you tell people reading this, why is it important for people to heal? There are people who are not going to work with you. There are people who are not going to work with another healer. They’re not happy, they’re stuck. It takes a lot of courage to heal. What would you say, why should people go through that and face that to heal their issues?
First, when we say that somebody is stuck, I don’t see them stuck. I think that’s a big school for them, what they’re going through. Also, Carl Jung said that depression is an opportunity to discover another part of you. Something along these lines. It’s not a direct quote, but yeah. Everything is a learning lesson, including that state where we feel that we are stuck. Still, on the soul level, so much is happening. The souls are parting when we, as humans, are going through challenges and we are overcoming them. I got the message that, for example, the bigger the pain, the bigger the growth. When we are overcoming these challenges, the souls are the happiest.
You know what else I’ve also learned is that because they’re with us, as we heal, they heal. Even if they’re on the other side, they’re healing along with us. I’ve heard that a lot. Lena, what is the Lena Jung tip for finding joy in life? You’ve been through so much in your life and in spite of everything, you’ve still been able to find some joy. Even with losing Tomas, what would you say?
I’m going to share one thing that was just revealed to me as a part of this program that I’m doing here in Uganda. One of the refugees from Sudan said something. We had the forest bath, so I took them to forest and I took them through exercise where they were able to connect themselves while in forest. She said that when she was eleven, there was some huge thing happening in her life and the life of her family. They ended up in Sudan and they ended up being lost in the desert, literally being lost in the desert.
Everyone was in super panicking mode, really in big stress. She remembered that she felt pure joy just carrying her. She felt guilty at the time that she’s feeling that, that it was not natural. How come she feels that? That joy was in full purity when it came within her and also carrying her. She shared that because she experienced this now, years later, in the forest, having this ten-minute experience. What I’m trying to say here is that even in the toughest possible times, we can feel something that seems unnatural to us as humans, but it’s there because it’s natural in the divine and for the divine that it’s living through us.
It’s beautiful.
Maybe it’s an experience that I can share from other person, but I would say that also when Tomas passed, and at some points, I felt fulfilled. I felt wholesome, and then I found myself feeling guilty about that feeling, but it was there. In our purity, we really are the creators, and when we get to our pure form or the purest form of our being, we allow that joy which is already there to be unleashed and that we can fill it.
Thank you, Lena. You know, Lena, I want to share this enlightened message that you channeled from The Drops with our audience. Sometimes the individual steps on the path of the discovery of the truth are shown to your human senses differently. Here we are talking about the painful experiences that you think of, but this is the thing. You have created those in your own illusion called earthly life in order to grow, expand, and evolve beyond them.
Imagine your soul in a form of an innocent and curious child experiencing the world and getting lesson after lesson from it so that it can grow into a wonderful and confident adult still being amazed by the beauty of life, just from a different standpoint. Now, try to embrace this image as truth for yourself because it is. Even though some lessons you are experiencing seem harsh, do think of them as door openers for what came into your life after which you and I have both talked about.
It is totally the same as the saying that the sun shines after every rain. As you know, no night has lasted forever. At some point, daylight came in this light. Also, your own path of revelation is taking place, the path taking you to freedom, which your soul knows very well. You are so very loved always and forever. The Drops.
Lena, thank you from my heart for helping people to know for sure that love never dies, for supporting them so beautifully on their healing journeys, for providing profound insights and guidance to those who are experiencing significant life changes and for this special interview filled with its healing wisdom and enlightened insights. I wish you every success for your upcoming retreat and more. As I like to say, to be continued, thank you again, Lena, and many blessings.
Thank you so much. Also, for your work, Irene. You are a healer as well, and this show is just a healing platform.
Thank you so much. We’re part of the collective and each of us are doing our part, which is a beautiful thing. To be continued.
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About Lena Jung
Born in Slovenia, the “green pearl of Europe,” Lena grew up as a lone wolf, finding solace in nature and her inner world. After the passing of her husband in 2023, Lena connected with his soul, which then led her to communicate with The Drops, a collective group of high-vibrational beings from the Source. Their guidance and love helped Lena heal and reignited her purpose of serving others on their spiritual paths. In addition to her channeling work with The Drops, Lena offers a wide range of healing modalities, including Ayurvedic consultations (Postgraduate Certificate in Ayurveda), Shamanic journeys (certified through the Four Winds Society), and Jungian coaching (certified Jungian coach). Her vast experience includes two PhDs, an Executive MBA, and over 20 years in media and energy businesses. Lena’s work integrates her diverse professional background with her spiritual gifts, allowing her to provide profound insights and guidance to clients, specifically high-achieving women who are experiencing significant life changes.
