GAR 108 | Helping Souls Heal


Dr. Jeff O’Driscoll is a retired emergency physician, an intuitive spiritual mentor, a speaker, an artist, and the author of Not Yet: Near-Life Experiences & Lessons Learned, his award-winning memoir that walks readers through a series of near-death experiences in the emergency room that opened a window into the spiritual world. For 25 years, Jeff helped more than 60,000 patients to heal their bodies. With candor, humor and empathy, Jeff now helps people to identify their gifts, find their own answers and heal their souls. He delights in bringing people to their a-ha moment and he has been quoted as saying, “Helping souls heal, heals me.”



  • How Jeff’s intuitive gifts began after a farm accident that took the life of his 15-year-old brother Stan.
  • As an emergency physician, Jeff received messages from Spirit that helped him care for patients, including diagnoses he had not considered.
  • Jeff’s shared death experience with the deceased wife of a patient in the emergency room.
  • What Jeff saw when he washed the feet of a homeless man in the ER and saw the man’s Divine nature.


  • What is the importance of forgiveness, not only to others but also to ourselves?
  • What is an authentic life and what are the rewards that await an authentic life?
  • Why is empathy such an important trait for each of us to cultivate, and for those who lack empathy, is there a way for them to develop it?





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Jeff O’Driscoll: Helping Souls Heal






I’m honored to have this special opportunity to interview Dr. Jeff O’Driscoll, who is a retired emergency physician, an intuitive spiritual mentor, a speaker, an artist, and the author of Not Yet: Near Life Experiences and Lessons Learned, his award-winning memoir that walks readers through a series of near-death experiences in the emergency room that opened a window into the spiritual world.

Jeff is board certified in internal medicine and is a fellow of the American College of Emergency Physicians. He and his wife, Sheila, live in Salt Lake City, Utah. They have five children and five grandchildren. For 25 years, Jeff helped more than 60,000 patients to heal their bodies with candor, humor, and empathy. He helps people to identify their gifts, find their own answers, and heal their souls. He delights in bringing people to their a-ha moment, and he has been quoted as saying, “Helping souls heal, heals me.” This is surely going to be a fascinating and enlightening interview.

Jeff, a warm and heartfelt welcome to the show.

Thank you for having me. It is wonderful to be with you.

Let’s begin our interview with this question. Please share how your intuitive gifts began shortly after a farm accident that took the life of your fifteen-year-old brother, Stan, and continued through your rowdy football and rodeo years.

We don’t talk about some of my rowdy years. My brother died in a farm accident a month before my twelfth birthday. I didn’t think it had an impact on me. I saw the agony of my parents, but I thought I got through it unscathed. When I was sixteen, I was driving a car much too fast on a narrow, windy country road after dark with two friends in the car. Nobody was wearing seat belts. A voice spoke to me and said, “You need to slow down.” For some reason, I listened. It wrapped itself around me. I experienced it more than I heard it.

I slowed down. I went around the corner. I hit a car head-on. There was a lot of damage, but nobody was injured. I might have died that night if I hadn’t slowed down and that voice hadn’t spoken to me. Still, I didn’t think much about it. I had those experiences more and more. Twenty years after my brother died, he came to me and said, “You have to talk with our mother because there are things she has never told you about my death.” That got my attention.

I went and visited with my mother. It was just the two of us in one quiet afternoon. She told me that day for the first time. She said, “Before Stan died, I always knew where you were in the house because I could hear you singing. After your brother died, you stopped singing.” That was the first time I realized that my brother’s death had a major psychic impact on me.

When I finally started to share some of my experiences decades later, people asked me, “How did this all start? When did this happen to you?” I had to go back in time. I finally realized it started with my brother’s death. That is when I started having these spiritual experiences. That opened a window for me that never fully closed.

It feels like it was there. That is the important thing that triggered it open. When you were an emergency physician, you received messages from a spirit that helped you care for patients, including diagnoses you hadn’t considered. Please tell us some of these stories, including what you sometimes witnessed. I know you saw the patient’s spirits leave the body and also arrive. You saw both. You see a person’s eternal essence leave or arrive at their body. That is amazing, Jeff. Could you share that with us?

On occasion. It’s usually not when I was caring for a patient, interestingly. It’s usually when one of my colleagues was taking care of a patient, and I didn’t have any responsibility for that patient or any concerns about providing medical care. That opened my heart and made me more available. If I was taking care of the patient, I was wrapped up in the orders, the diagnosis, and all these other things that the spirit didn’t have clear access to.

I remember one time walking into a room where my colleague was resuscitating a woman who had drowned in a hotel pool. She had no heartbeat. I became aware of her presence outside of her physical body. She was just getting her bearings and a feel for what it was like to be out of her body. When she became aware of these things, she was gone. I wondered what had happened. Where did she go?

I looked at the cardiac monitor, and she had a heartbeat again. She was back in her body. She hadn’t gone anywhere. She was back in her body. I couldn’t perceive her spiritual connection at that moment anymore. I had a number of experiences like that. I saw people leave their bodies when they died. They would communicate with me before they left this realm. On one occasion, I was impressed that I needed to do a scan on a patient that had no real medical criteria to need a scan. I talked with the patient about it. I said, “You don’t meet the medical criteria for this head scan, but I think it is important.” He agreed. He joked with me and said, “Go ahead and order the test.”

Was it a message you got or a feeling you got?

It was a feeling and knowing. Fifteen minutes later, the radiologist called me with the results of his head scan. He had this accumulating hematoma in his brain that was life-threatening. He wanted to get up and go home before I ordered the scan. If I had let him do that, he would’ve died. Because I ordered the scan, I was able to call a neurosurgeon. Fifteen minutes later, he was in the operating room having his blood drained. He had no ill ward effects, to my knowledge, after that.

It makes you wish that every single doctor you go to has your ability. It is an extra special ability that you have to hear from a person’s soul. After 25 years of not telling anybody that you had this special ability, you intuited that it was time to share many of your special experiences in your award-winning book titled Not Yet: Near Life Experiences and Lessons Learned. Please tell us about your book and why you call them near-life experiences instead of near-death experiences and share with us the heavenly message you received about your book as you boarded a plane to a speaking engagement.

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Six months after I stopped seeing patients, I woke up one day. I had this knowing in my soul that it was okay to start sharing. It had never felt right to share my experiences prior to that time. When I started to share with a few selected individuals, I could see how reassuring and validating it was to them. Six months later, I had written my book.

I call them near-life experiences because I have a lot of friends in the near-death community, in addition to my own experiences. Everyone agrees that when they are out of their body and they are in their experience, they are closer to life than they have ever been. They are more alive. It is more real than anything they experienced in their body. They are closer to their ultimate life than at any other time. That’s why I call them near-life experiences.

Would you say that is because the illusions are stripped away? They are in touch with the reality of what we are all about as opposed to how we are conditioned while we are in the body.

Many near-death experiencers, when they come back, will say something like, “It was so real. This feels like a dream. That was real.” That is a consistent sentiment expressed by people. I had spiritual experiences that confirmed that to me as well. That’s why I call them near-life experiences.

You boarded a plane, and you got a message after you wrote your book.

I was sitting in the airport with a stack of books in my suitcase. I was going to speak for the first time publicly about my spiritual experiences. A woman sat down next to me and asked me where I was going, what I was doing, and the usual questions. When she found out the topic of what I was going to be speaking about, her whole countenance changed. She looked at me and said, “My grandfather died. He has come to me a couple of times.”

She took one of my books and got on her plane. I went and got on my plane. I had seen an excess of 60,000 patients at that point in my career. On the plane to my destination, a spirit spoke to me and said, “You will help more people with this book than you helped as a physician in the emergency department.” It changed my whole perspective for the rest of my life.

It is an amazing blessing because it is for me, with the show. I know you feel the same way. You have a life mission now. This is helping many people. It’s a blessing. Everyone, it is a wonderful book and I enjoyed it. I want to read this passage and get Jeff’s take on something in it. This is from your book, Not Yet. It resonates with the mission of the show.

“The mist of darkness and the pains of life are inevitable. They are on the path we all must tread. Trying to avoid them through drugs, alcohol, sexual exploitation, or any number of other destructive behaviors only takes us away from the ultimate happiness we truly desire and the rewards that await an authentic life.” Jeff, what is an authentic life? What are the rewards that await an authentic life? I know many of us are not being true to who we are.

An authentic life for me is honoring who you are and living in the present. I used to think living in the present was cliché. The past is gone. The future is not here. You can only live in the present. One day, I realized something. I have had profound spiritual experiences. I’m grateful for them and they taught me many things. I anticipate divine spiritual experiences in the future. I look forward to them. I can only experience the divine in the now. That is the only time I can come into the presence of the source.

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We spend so much of our lives laboring to become something. The world would have us believe that we are becoming something. The problem is we spend much time becoming that we forget to be what we are now. Part of what I have learned in my path and journey about an authentic life is we are eternal souls of infinite unchanging worth. It is important for us to live from that perspective, making decisions from the perspective of who we are, not who we think we are becoming sometime in the future.

That said, who we are can change and transition through time as we learn more and we become more enlightened. It is an acceptance of who we are at this point, not negating the fact that we can continue to grow.

We continue to grow and progress. We may be a completely different person a month or a year from now, but we shouldn’t allow that possible anticipation to rob us of experiencing what we are now, who we are now, and what we can experience in the present.

You also stated in your book, “We can ease one another’s burdens simply by forgiving one another. We should give that gift freely and earnestly. We should give it more often. We should also learn to forgive ourselves.” Please speak to us about the importance of forgiveness, not only to others but also to ourselves.

Forgive freely, forgive often, and forgive early.

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Helping Souls Heal: Forgive freely, forgive often, forgive early.

If someone has hurt and harmed you, and forgiving is more for you than for that person, how do you do that? Tell our audience who are saying, “How do I forgive? How do I deal with that?

A lot of people talk about repentance. I’m fine with repentance. I think we can all improve ourselves. If you think about it, repentance is a selfish perspective. It is about I’m making myself better. Forgiveness is a completely selfless thing. I can give forgiveness to anybody anytime. It is not dependent upon their actions. They don’t have to come and apologize to me. I can simply forgive them. When we forgive, we let go of the burden.

Forgiving is not letting them off the hook necessarily.

It depends on words. I don’t want to get caught up in semantics, but you can forgive somebody and still not invite them back into your life. If they are untrustworthy and cause destruction everywhere they go, you don’t have to have them in your life. You also don’t have to hold resentment toward them either. You can forgive them, love them unconditionally, and still choose not to have them in your life. That is okay.

I call it detaching with love. I send them love. I back up a little bit. What about forgiveness to ourselves, Jeff?

I was in meditation one day, and a spirit spoke to me and said, “You are here to love yourself as you are.” I said, “That can’t be. That is contrary to everything I have been taught all my life. I must be listening to the wrong voice.” I was taken to some ancient texts where we are taught to forgive others and to forgive ourselves, love others, and love ourselves. It dawned on me that day something had never occurred to me before.

Generally, when we think we have received an imperative from the divine, we feel like we should honor it promptly in the present. It occurred to me that day that the only way I can love myself today is to love myself as I am. That is the only me that exists. It wasn’t a rationalization. It wasn’t an excuse to love myself as I am. It is an invitation. The only way I can honor it today is to love myself as I am. I can love next week’s or next year’s version of my thinner more compassionate self. If that exists a year from now, I can love that person then. Today I love myself as I am.

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That is called self-acceptance, which is important. That means so much. You highlight the remarkable near-death experience story of Jeffrey Olsen, who lost his spouse, son, and left leg in a tragic automobile accident. Please tell us about the shared death experience. I’m sure many of our audience have never heard of a shared death experience, the shared death experience you had with Jeff’s deceased wife, Tamara, in the emergency room. Give us a taste of Jeff’s near-death experience. Full disclosure, everyone, I will be interviewing Jeff Olsen on the show at a future date. That was an amazing story in your book about that shared death experience. Do you want to share that with our audience, please?

It was the end of March 1997. Jeff Olsen was involved in a horrible car crash. It nearly killed him. It took the life of his wife and his fourteen-month-old son, Griffin. His seven-year-old son, Spencer, survived with virtually no injury. Jeff was flown to my trauma center. He and I had never met before. I went into the trauma room. He was unconscious on the gurney. There were a bunch of people taking care of him.

Standing above him in the air was his newly deceased wife, Tamara. I saw her. I experienced her presence. She communicated with me. I had never met her before, but I knew who she was instantly. The room got quiet for everybody but me. Everybody else was doing their tasks. For me, it was like somebody turned the volume off on the television, and I experienced her.

I walked over and looked down at Jeff. I assessed him briefly. While I looked down at him, I could still see Tamara standing behind me in the air because I could see in all directions at the same time. I sent him off to the operating room. I never expected to see him again. I went home, wrote one sentence about it in my journal, and went to bed.

A month later, a nurse who also had a spiritual experience that night in the trauma room grabbed me by the arm. She dragged me to Jeff Olsen’s hospital room and insisted we tell him what I had experienced. I reluctantly shared it with him. At that time, he wept and proceeded to tell me how he had left his body at the scene of the accident before he was even extricated from the car. He had experienced Tamara as well in the air above the accident. She said, “You have to go back and raise our other son.”

We have been dear friends ever since. We still speak together often. A shared death experience that you mentioned is one like I had where somebody else died, and I had a profound spiritual experience. I was awake, alive, alert, and healthy, not on drugs and not having a seizure. There is no explanation from a medical perspective about the experience I had. It is often referred to as a shared death experience.

Could you share what your guides have taught you in some of your darkest hours? You talk about that in the book. You have also stated that as the veil was drawn back, you experienced eternity and felt whole. Please tell us more about this, Jeff.

I was in a dark place. It was a difficult time in my life. It went on for 4 to 5 years.

Was this while you were still an emergency room physician or after?

I was an emergency room physician. This was before my experience with Jeff Olsen and his wife, Tamara. I had asked the spirit if I could help a friend with her spiritual burden. Her husband had died. She was a widow with six children. I wanted to help her, and I didn’t know how. I had this profound spiritual experience. I asked the spirit. I said, “Can I carry some of her burden for her?” To my surprise, the answer was yes. That heavy, horrible, and sorrowful dark grief and mourning in her life settled onto mine. It was with me for about five years.

On one occasion, it was so heavy, dark, and imposing. I thought I might die. I’m a physician. A voice said, “This is how Beck felt the day her husband died.” That was the name of the woman whom I was trying to help. I was given that experience. I prayed and asked that I might be relieved of that darkness and horrible heavy feeling. The spirit spoke to me and said, “Not yet.” That is where the title of my book comes from. It is from that experience.

I was coming out of that incredible soul-stretching experience when I met Jeff Olsen. In the first real substantive conversation we had together after he got out of the hospital, he was struggling because some of his experiences didn’t fit with some of the things he had been taught all his life. He was struggling through this. After our first real conversation, I came home and wrote in my journal that I was finally grateful for those years in the darkness because I knew the answers to Jeff’s questions and I knew how to help him.

That is what you are also passing forward to many other people now, which is such a blessing. You washed the feet of a homeless man in the ER, and you saw his divine nature. Please share that experience and what you saw.

It was wintertime. It was cold outside. There was snow on the ground. This gentleman had holes in his shoes, and his feet were in rough shape. He was disheveled. He had tattered clothing and a long uncut hair beard. He struggled with addictions. He was the opposite of everything the world defines as success. You need to provide good care to somebody’s feet when they are in that condition to prevent serious long-lasting infections.

You came upon him. He was sitting outside the hospital.

He was a patient. I walked into the room, and there he was on the gurney. We were the only two people in the room. I filled a wash basin full of warm water, put some soap in it, and sat down at the foot of the gurney. I removed his shoes and took off the last threads of his socks. I proceeded to wash his feet. Something miraculous happened. That veil, everything temporal and physical, was all drawn aside. I saw who he was. I experienced his divine nature.

I’m not exaggerating when I say, “I was in the presence of God.” I went in there thinking I was going to minister to this man. I realized he was there to serve me because he was the antithesis of everything the world defines as success, yet I saw his divine nature. I have viewed every soul since that day differently because that is who we all are. We are always sitting next to God, whether we are in a worship service or the gutter. That is who the person next to us is. That is who we are.

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Helping Souls Heal: We’re always sitting next to God, whether we’re in a worship service or in the gutter. That’s who the person next to us is. That’s who we are.

You state that love and empathy are real and eternal. Please explain why empathy is such an important trait for each of us to cultivate. For those who lack empathy, is there a way for them to develop it? I could think of quite a few people in this world who need to develop some empathy.

When I was in that horrible time in my life when I was carrying that spiritual burden for a friend, I was given that experience where a spirit said, “This is how she felt the day her husband died.” I was given that experience vicariously. I’m not a woman. I haven’t lost a spouse, yet I had that horrible, heavy physical burden. I was told, “This is how she felt.”

I went to speak with a friend of mine. He was twice my age at that time. He had a soul-stretching life. He had been in a foxhole in Okinawa. I talked with him about this one day. He looked at me and said, “Empathy is a good thing.” Empathy is what this life is about, in my opinion. When we learn to experience how others feel, when we have empathy for them, all judgment stops, and we become one. The ultimate purpose of our existence in this realm is to learn to love, have empathy, and become one.

It makes total sense to a girl who got pulled out of a car with the words “Be loving and kind to everyone” echoing in her head. You mentor clients in ten countries on five continents, helping people to become their most authentic selves. When did you begin to know that you exist to help souls heal? Please share a story of someone you have mentored, how that person’s soul healed, and the difference your mentoring made in that person’s life. I bet you a few people are going to want to talk with you after this interview. Let them know what that is like.

When I first published my book, people wanted to get together and visit with me about the book. We had these long conversations about the book. Quite unexpectedly, during those extended lunchtimes, I sometimes would be given messages for them, or I would discern their spiritual gifts, sometimes gifts they weren’t even aware they had. As we talked, I would ask them questions that would be given to me. Sometimes they would answer the question, their eyes would widen, and they would realize, “That is the answer to my question. I verbalized it out of my own mouth.”

That is what I do now. That mission statement was given to me one day, “I exist to help souls heal.“ I will give you one example. That very evening, I went to hear my friend Jeff Olsen speak. I wasn’t speaking. I just went to support him. He does this horrible thing I hate. He makes everybody stand up, face each other in pairs and look into one another’s eyes in silence. It is powerful for a lot of people, but I never liked it because it made me uncomfortable. I had to do it because I was sitting in the front row.

I turned to the guy next to me. His wife had already turned to her best friend. There was nobody left but me and him to look at each other. He was uncomfortable. He started looking away. I thought, “I’m going to make it easy for him. I’m going to look away too.” I heard that message that had been given to me earlier in the day, “I exist to help souls heal.” I thought, “I’m going to love this man enough to help him and give him what he needs.” I looked him in the eyes, and we looked at each other for a prolonged period of time. He broke down and wept. In the end, without ever saying a word, he gave me a hug and thanked me.

Over a period of several days or a week, I did some sleuthing around on Facebook. I found his wife, whom I had never met before. She invited me to come to meet him in his hospital room. I went on Christmas Eve to his hospital room. I walked in and sat down. Before I could even ask him what happened that night, he started to talk to me. He said, “When I looked at you that night, a spirit said that we were fellow travelers. If he told me his story, I would believe him.”

We had this profound experience that day in his hospital room. Several weeks later, he died. Those two encounters were the only experiences we had together in this life, yet I feel like I have known him for an eternity. I felt like I came into his life at the time he needed me and vice versa. We are all here to help one another.

You witnessed him at the end of his journey, which was a tremendous blessing as he was getting ready to transition. That is wonderful. Why do you say that it is important to honor your grief and the grief of others, and there is no single right path to doing this? You of all people certainly know about grief.

When my brother died, my mother wanted to go to the cemetery. She felt closest to her firstborn son at the cemetery. She felt his presence. She felt comforted when she was there. She wanted to go often. Initially, she wanted to go daily. My father hated going to the cemetery. For him, it was a place of darkness, sorrow, and grief, and he hated it.

I didn’t know this for twenty years. I later found out that he got to the point where he dreaded coming home from work because he knew Mom would want to go to the cemetery, and he knew to be a supportive husband. He had to go even though it was a horrible, painful, and miserable experience for him. They never talked about it this way. They never got any counseling. They just muddled through.

They were separated for over a year and nearly divorced because they grieved differently. Nobody helped them understand that each person’s grieving process was as authentic as the others. They could support one another without having to be the same. Some people get mad if you don’t go to the cemetery often enough. Other people get offended. Everybody does the process differently. We need to honor that, in my opinion. Fortunately, my parents were able to get back together, and they are still together.

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Helping Souls Heal: Each person’s grieving process is just as authentic as the others. We could support one another without having to be the same.

I agree with you. It doesn’t even come to grief with different things. People feel differently about going to an event or not. There is often a lot of this pressure, “You should.” I tell people, “Don’t should yourself. You need to be true to yourself.” That is in keeping with what you are saying. You visit a tree. You call it your Stan tree. You continue to receive visits from your deceased brother, Stan. Do you want to tell us about that?

What I refer to as my Stan tree. We planted it in the summer he died. He died in June. We planted a tree in the front yard. My parents still live in that house. It now has been more than 45 years. That tree is still there. I still land in the shade of that tree in the summer when I visit my folks. It’s my Stan tree. He still comes to me occasionally. He came to me a couple of years ago when I was in meditation. He touched my hand. When he touched my hand, the walls and the ceiling of the building faded away. I was in this profound glorious place that a lot of people would describe as heaven.

He led me through and showed me around. He gave me a life review. He showed me the days when my course in life had taken a significant turn. He showed me how he intervened for me on those days on my behalf. He showed the day of his death, but not from the perspective I had seen it from as a child. He showed it to me from the perspective of my parents. I experienced the agony, sorrow, and loss that my parents felt. He looked at me and said, “Tell our parents not to be sad anymore. Tell them I’m fine, and I want them to be happy when they talk about me.

What a profound message that is for all of us. I can relate because that is what I get often from my husband. They want you to be happy when you are on the other side. Jeff has also written some other interesting books. I’m going to get him to talk about them. He has a novel called Who Buried Achilles. You have a series of children’s books about Muck the Duck and Friends. I have two eight-year-old grandsons. Would they love Muck The Duck and Friends?

They would. I was riding in a car with my then three-year-old granddaughter, a precocious girl with a great vocabulary. She said, “Papa, tell me a story.” We were in the car so I had to make it up. I told her a story about Muck The Duck. Muck learned something about bullying. She loved it. Three days later, she was telling my wife about it. She said, “Jeff, you have to write this down.” I wrote it down. I found a gifted illustrator. It was so much fun making the book. I made five more. There is a series of six. They are about 500 words each. They all have a good valuable moral to them. Ringo the Dingo lives in Australia. He learned the importance of being able to say, “I made a mistake. I’m sorry.” They are great books.

They are life lessons, but they are fun for kids. Who did bury Achilles?

I was doing consulting work for a medical device company. I spent about five weeks one winter in Europe, traveling around half a dozen different countries by train. I started writing this book about a person that lived in Zurich as an adult. They were born in Beaux, France. They had a spiritually broken life. His father was horribly abusive. He was trying to find some purpose in his life. I started writing the book while I was traveling by train around these different areas in Europe. All the places the main character in the book stays at, the hotels and restaurants, are all places I stayed at and ate. It starts as a pretty gritty book, but it is his spiritual journey. He finds something along the way.

Everyone, add that one to your list. Jeff, everyone wants to connect with you now. Spell it out. Tell them how to connect with you. I’m sure you have a website and email.

I’m on Facebook. I have a website. It is If you can’t remember that, go to

You state, “Helping souls heal, heals you.” What is your message about the importance of healing that you like to share with our audience?

When I first started helping people in this way, I was talking with a friend of mine. He looked at me and said, “You are a healer.” I grew up in a traditional background. My opinion was there was one healer, and it was a divine person. I said, “No, I can’t be a healer.” He looked at me and goes, “I disagree. I think you are a healer. You should ask for permission to use the word.”

I took his advice. I came home, changed my clothes, and went for a run because I get a lot of good downloads when I’m out running. While I was running, I asked, “Is it okay to call myself a healer?” The creator came to me. On this occasion, the presence was a masculine presence. He chuckled and said, “Of course. I made you a healer.” With those few words, I got this download. I understood, “He is not diminished by my successes. If I’m a good healer, it doesn’t make him less. He is not jealous.”

You are an extension of him.

I came home, and that was the day I put Healer on my business card and website. That was my journey.

Jeff O’Driscoll, what is your tip for finding joy in life?

Finding joy in life is realizing that you are exactly where you are supposed to be and doing what you are supposed to be doing. If you love others, you are loved. It is not about experiencing love. It is about being loved. That was a long journey for me to get there. It is a long story to share, but it is about love. Love is joy. Love is why we are here.

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I was getting ready to speak to a large group of people one day. I was wondering about the message. I take these things seriously. I asked, “What is the message?” A voice came to me and told me three things clearly, “Tell them they are enough. Tell them they are divine. Tell them they are loved.” That was the message. That’s joy.

Jeff, you transitioned from saving lives in the emergency room to becoming an inspiring spiritual mentor who helps people to heal their souls and rebirth themselves. I’m sure many in our audience are now eager to read and learn from the many special insights to be found in your book, Not Yet: Near Life Experiences and Lessons Learned, as well as wanting to experience your unique and inspiring intuitive mentoring.

Thank you from my heart for the honor and blessing of interviewing you. It has been a truly eye-opening and touching interview. Here is a reminder, everyone. You can see all Grief and Rebirth podcast episodes on Make sure to follow and like us, because we know you do, on social at @IreneSWeinberg on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube. As I like to say, to be continued. Many blessings, and bye for now.


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