In this transformative episode, spiritual medium, teacher, mentor, and author Marilyn Whall, whose client base stretches from her home in Sydney Australia to New Zealand, the United States, Singapore, India, and the United Kingdom, joins Irene to share her profound journey of personal growth and spiritual awakening, which is described in her inspiring and uplifting book titled “Knowing: A Medium’s Journey“. Marilyn reveals the loneliness, abuse, and despair she experienced during her childhood, the vision in her mind’s eye of a woman holding her hand upward and how that changed her life, her description of the Spirit world, how we know if our choices are coming from fear or from love, what pets experience in the afterlife, and much more. Don’t miss this compelling interview with an enlightened, remarkable woman who knows for sure that love is the key to healing pain and moving mountains!
IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL HEAR ABOUT THINGS LIKE:
- How Marilyn knew she was different from other children.
- How our concepts of time and space are different on each side of the veil.
- What inspired Marilyn to pursue mediumship as her calling.
- How Marilyn overcame her deep fear of public speaking.
- What it feels like to connect with Spirit during a session.
- The ways Spirit sends us signs from the Other Side.
SOME QUESTIONS IRENE ASKS MARILYN:
- Is your difficult childhood related to the work you now do in your life?
- What was the voice inside of you that began the journey that changed your life?
- What did the vision of a woman holding her hand upward signify to you?
- What do pets experience in the afterlife?
- Can you describe the Spirit World to us?
Explore more about Marilyn’s journey in her book: Knowing.
Contact Marilyn at marilynwhall@hotmail.com to claim your 30-minute reading for $98.00!
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How Is Love the Key to Healing Pain and Moving Mountains?
Introduction
I hope this finds each of you so very well. I’m speaking to you from my studio in West Orange, New Jersey, and I could not be more delighted to have the pleasure of interviewing spiritual medium, teacher, mentor, and author, Marilyn Wall, whose client base stretches from her home in Sydney, Australia, to New Zealand, the United States, Singapore, India and the United Kingdom. Marilyn is renowned for her accuracy, passion, and insight.
She has taught in the USA alongside celebrity mediums, appeared on TV, been featured in highly regarded magazines, appeared as a guest medium in Spirit TV, demonstrated in America at the journey within the church, and been interviewed by Spirit’s Voice, an online community. She is the author of the inspiring and uplifting Knowing. A Medium’s Journey is about her unfolding from a shy and demure child into a brilliant light for the spirit world.
I’m looking forward to talking with Marilyn about the loneliness, abuse, and despair she experienced during her childhood. The vision in her mind’s eye of a woman holding her hand upward and how that changed her life, her description of the spirit world, how we know if our choices are coming from fear or from love. What pets experience in the afterlife, and much more for an interview with an enlightened, remarkable woman who knows for sure that love is the key to healing pain and moving mountains.
Marilyn, a truly heartfelt welcome to the show.
Thank you. It’s my pleasure to be here. It’s just like, thank you. It was interesting listening to you introduce me. Do we do all those things? Have we experienced all those wonderful things? Here we are, same as you. You’ve got an incredible story that you’re sharing with the world. It’s my pleasure. Thank you for being here.
Childhood And Early Experiences
Let’s talk about your childhood. You had loneliness, abuse, despair. You knew you were different from other kids and you knew things that others could not know. Do you want to tell us a little bit about those developmental years?
Looking back now seems like a long time ago memory. It’s not here today but when I wrote my first book Knowing, I think that was really when I started to understand myself. I don’t know whether I understood, like probably so many people, what was going on in my life as a child growing up. It wasn’t until I started to put my life on paper that it all sort of started to make sense. When you talk about loneliness, I was the youngest of six and had an alcoholic stepfather. Looking back now, I could say very dysfunctional. There are a lot of things I didn’t talk about in my first book that I probably feel ready to talk about now, more of what it was like growing up. It’s taken that long for me to be able to put it on paper. That’s probably the best way to heal self.
I’m wondering if you had this difficult childhood, but I would imagine and it’s also informed me because I also had this difficult childhood of how it relates to the work you’re now doing your life. Do you feel like in a way it was preparation for a greater understanding?
Everything. I think everything that I’ve been through in my life has given me this opportunity to have more people come to me and for me to be more understanding of situations because I feel that if we haven’t experienced something ourselves, we truly don’t have an understanding of what it’s like. No two experiences are the same. No two experiences or two people’s life situations can be compared. For me, I’ve got to experience something to actually understand it, to have that epiphany, to have that lightning bolt moment, to have that spiritual awakening, to understand. It comes back to compassion. I think all the things that I’ve experienced in my life have been for that greater understanding.
I feel likewise. As far as your childhood, you also had a knowing and abilities and things that made you different from others. What were you had experiences with watches that continue to this day and explain how our concepts of time and space are different. You can explain how our concepts of time and space are different on each side of the veil, which is very dear to my heart, Marilyn, because I have a problem with time.
Time And Space
Honestly, on this side. Everyone is very oriented towards you have to be somewhere at the dot of time of something. I always say, “Maybe part of me is on the other side already.” There’s no such thing as time there. Can you explain to everyone about your experiences and how the concepts of time and space are different so that we can finally relax when we cross over? We’re not going to be so pressured with the time.
The concept of time that humans have formed. Growing up as a young girl, we all got watches. There were 4 girls and 2 boys, and we all got watches one Christmas. My watch always stopped, or it went fast, or it lost time. I was always getting into trouble as a young girl. I was supposed to be home at a certain time and my watch had either stopped or it had slowed down. I was never on time. I was always late. I was always in trouble.
There was even a time when I tried to figure out what the time was and put the watch on the right time when I had to be home to show my mom so I wouldn’t get into trouble but it was never the right time. To this day even if I’m out and people don’t believe me, if I say to someone, “Will give me a watch and I put it on for five minutes?” It either stops or it just goes backwards.
Has that magnetic pull inside of you do you think or your vibration or what do you think that is?
Maybe the spirit world just trying to get through to me that there’s no need to worry about time. There’s no need to worry about time. Like you, I just move through life, planning, I don’t know, there’s a certain amount that we have to sort of plan and we need to turn up on time. You’ve got appointments and things. Other than that, it doesn’t ruin my life. I’ve learned from those in the other world that there is no time in their world.
There is no time in their world. You understand that concept, or you’ve experienced it, the same is here. We’re just really walking through space in our everyday life. Who wants to be ruled by time? Then it comes back to being ruled by anything. We can still turn up and be on time without the concept of time ruling us. I don’t know about the magnetic field. I mean, that’s another thing I’d probably have to sit with for a few minutes.
You probably have some kind of a strong vibration that turns off those watches.
I’m just always in the other world, I think. There’s no separation. It’s part of us. A lot of people think that the work that I do and being labeled a medium is that I’ve got 5 hits and 10 arms or something. It’s no different to the next person. It’s just part of us. There’s no separation. I guess that’s the best way that I can describe the watch and the time. It’s the spirit world, those in the other world’s life. It’s just part of us. If we’re aware that this form is a form, we can go beyond that. I’m never late. I’m always on time. I’ve got no time for people that are late. That’s the irony of me not wearing a watch and not really being ruled by time. I’m always on time.
Isn’t that interesting?
I’m guided. It’s almost like I’ve got a clock within me and I can read that clock and I can read that time inside me. I can see it. I don’t need a clock on my arm.
In a way that’s better. You’re getting these heavenly nudges when you have to be somewhere. I really loved it when I was learning about you, you went through all of this throughout your childhood, you went through, you were confused, and you knew you had these gifts. When you were a kid, were you able to see spirit already and all of that?
I don’t ever remember waking up to some of the stories my students have shared with me seeing hands floating around the room or spirits sitting on the end of the bed. I don’t ever remember experiences like that. I’ve always had imaginary friends. I guess my toys growing up, my stuffed animals, my dolls, whatever it may have been growing up, I guess they were my friends. They were my communication.
They were my life. They always answered me. That might have been where part of my loneliness or walking alone might have come from because I never felt alone. I probably just thought it was normal to have a conversation with a hippopotamus toy or something because it would communicate with me or with me. I always had a love of nature and I had a love of animals. In that respect, I was never alone.
It sounds to me like you’re being provided comfort behind the scenes and help and support.
Being alone, but always knowing that you weren’t alone. I always knew I never walked alone. I could walk down the street and I didn’t feel alone. It wasn’t until a lot of years later that I probably even understood that there was a team of people walking with me from the other world.
Healing Journey And Essential Oils
That’s marvelous. Something though drew you to go to this Lifeline Counseling Service and begin to get into essential oils, especially Rose essential oil, which began your personal healing journey which brings you closer to where you are today. Could you tell us about that?
I was a mom, I had two children. I couldn’t have wanted for anything in the material world. There was an emptiness. There was just an emptiness. I woke up one morning and just felt like I wasn’t living the life that I came here to live. As you can imagine, it was pretty overwhelming. I mean I had this life. I had a family. I had everything. Everything can be nothing so to speak, because this emptiness was bigger than all of it. I started just walking, I was just roaming the streets, I’d take my children to school and I’d just walk and walk. I ended up on the river each day, probably asking for help, not aware that I was asking for help at the time.
I looked across the road and I saw the sign, Lifeline, and I thought, “Wow.” The pull within was so strong, that I crossed the road, I knocked on the door, and the door opened, and I must have looked like I’d seen a ghost. I must have been in a really bad place because they invited me in. It was a place where they didn’t let people come in. They would answer the phones at this place. They didn’t let people come in and sit down to talk to a counselor.
They let me in, and when I talk about the door opening, it’s like the door opened. It was like the door to my heart opened that day as well. It was interesting. The whole journey began sitting in groups with other people trying to piece life together, understand life, learning about meditation. I could talk about it for a week finding out who I was, where I needed to go, understanding fear, understanding love, and decisions we’d made.
It was a journey that took me into a lot of different arenas. I spent time serving the homeless and that time. That was so fulfilling. I spent time with my daughter at Christmas time sitting on a floor at one of the mission places and putting presents together that have been donated for families to come and collect. That was very rewarding. That was one of the most rewarding things I’ve got to experience. It’s like giving to others.
It was beautiful. You also got into essential oils, which were part of your healing. You discovered essential oils.
I did. They became my best friend because they were always there but I just found them. Again, it’s like walking that path alone. These little bottles of pure essential oils became my best friends. The aroma was just delicious. Their properties were nurturing, they were supporting. The rose oil, I used to feel like I was wrapped up in all these beautiful colors and the softness. Neroli, I loved Neroli. Neroli was like a little mom.
It was probably like a little mom that I didn’t have with me at this particular time when I was going through such a big change, but they also helped me in a lot of other ways on my path. An opportunity came for me to present workshops selling them. I loved them so much that I was approached by one of the companies. I’d been working in a new age store and obviously, I was selling a lot of pure essential oils. They approached me at a time in my life when I wanted to give up working in the new-age store.
They asked me if I’d present workshops for them but that involved holding a microphone and standing up in front of an audience and having to speak. That was one of my greatest fears. At that time, the spirit world was coming a lot closer to me. I knew I had to take a leap of faith in regards to doing the mediumship work that was still a little bit down the track. First of all, I had to overcome the fear of public speaking. There I was with the microphone selling these beautiful pure essential oils. Anything that we love, anything that we’re passionate about, I think you can overcome anything.
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Life Journey And Awakening
It sounds to me like you were being set up all this time. This was another way you were being prepared for what you were going to do because there was a voice that came deep within you that told you to listen to your heart. That began the journey that changed your life. Tell us about that. Now, you’re doing the presentations. If you’re saying what you want, all of a sudden you get this voice. It begins a journey and you become inspired to pursue mediumship as you’re falling. Tell us about that.
I did. I had this story where I guess as a single mom, I had to depend on myself financially and every other way. I had to work, I had to pay my bills. There was an opportunity that came into my life where I was being totally supported to follow the pull from within. Out of the greatness of that, I just surrendered to all the stories that were embedded in me. I gave everything thing up. I think it was probably back in 2003. I’d done a lot of seeking and searching prior to that, but I think it was 2003.
The energy that was coming in from those in the other world and to work with the other world was deepening and I just gave everything up, I just surrendered. I was very nomadic, I felt like I was just roaming the streets trying to understand the spirit world. I’d find myself lying on my lounge room floor because the energy was so intense that I wasn’t sure what was going on. I just surrendered to it all. I joined a weekly group sitting with other like-minded people and I just get dedicated every minute of every day to serving the other world.
Now in late 2008, you began to see a vision in your mind’s eye, which really changed your life of a woman holding her hand upward. Tell us what that sign indicated to you and the amazing thing that manifested in your life from that. I also want to ask you about after that, signs that people get from the other side and why butterflies have this special significance of meaning for you also. Tell us about literally speaking of butterflies, this whole transformation and unfolding that happened in your life.
I was married at the time when the vision started coming towards me and it was quite a solid vision and it was a woman with the hand standing up. I remember saying to my husband at the time, my now ex-husband, I remember saying to him, I just keep having this vision. I was walking around the house going like this, and he said, “Honey, sounds like the Statue of Liberty.” I said, “New York. That’s where I’m going.” He just sort of looked at me. I guess he was used to me. Then I mentioned something to another medium friend and James Van Praagh’s name must’ve come up. Computers weren’t my friend. Anyway, somehow I found James Van Praagh’s website, don’t ask me how obviously those in the other world are just guides.
They knew.
I try and think how I turned a computer on in those days, let alone found a web link. Anyway, it happened. Here I was reading about this man, James Van Praagh. On his website he was taking a class, all I saw was the NY New York. I thought, “That’s it. That’s where I’m going.” I put an application form in. I marked the time off in my diary. I didn’t hear anything back from Reinbeck in New York where he was teaching. I just thought, “That’s it, not going. Got it all wrong.” Then I think the next day I woke up and there was an email and it had been summer holidays, I think in America or something. The campus, nobody had been there and they got back to me and here I was, I was going.
This was the Omega Institute in New York.
The Omega Institute, Rhinebeck. Then that brought up a whole lot of other things, Irene. I had to face a lot of fear about getting on a plane, going somewhere I’d never been by myself. I had all these fears to face. What was I going to do when I got there? How was I going to manage? My daughter looked at me and said, “Mom, you’ve been talking about nothing other than this for months. It’s just like, go.” I went and it all just fell into place. It as it does.
Like it was meant to be.
If you surrender, if you trust, and you follow the pull from within. There I was, here I was in Upstate New York. I’m sitting in James Van Praagh’s workshop. I think the second day I heard Spirit’s voice say to me that I would be the third person to go up on stage. I’m sitting there having this conversation with myself thinking, “Yeah, right.” There are 500 people in the room. Here I am being told by the spirit world that I’m going to go up on stage. Anyway, two people have been up on stage to deliver messages. James said, “Is there anyone else who’d like to come up?” I was catapulted out of my seat. Don’t ask me.
Somebody propelled you.
Spirit within was ignited and there was this force greater than myself. Here I was on stage standing next to James Van Praagh delivering a message to the audience. That’s another story. After that, I think the next day, just briefly, I wandered into a class early because I had a question for James about some trance energy. He said to me, “Come over here and we’ll talk to this person over here.” He said, “Can you tell Marilyn what we were talking about last night?” James had been talking with this other lady about asking me and getting some people together to sit in a circle with the trance energy the night before.
I’d wandered into the class early the day asking him a trance question. He told me to meet him at 8:00 PM that night under the old oak tree. Again, here I was facing all my fears, standing there bewildered, not knowing what was going on under this old oak tree, waiting for this man, James Van Praagh, to turn up. The door wasn’t open to the room. We wanted to sit in, Irene. Not many people know this story, but we did. We found a window that we managed to open and we helped each other.
You and James helped each other through the window?
One of us got through. There were a few of us to get through the window so we could go and open the door to let the others in. It’s like to make things happen sometimes. You just move beyond any obstacles that are there.
Also, a wonderful bonding experience with you and James.
Yes. Then I went back to Sydney and I wanted more of what I experienced with James and I ended up on a cruise about six weeks later. I went to Rome and here I was embarking on another journey. This person who was fearful to go to New York, here I was flying a Rome. James got wind that I was coming and he started to email me and he said, “Look, if you can get to the airport at such and such time, we land and we’ll be there and you can come with us.”
Lo and behold, I found a plane that landed at the same time that he was going to be at the airport. Here’s these two sort of strangers looking at each other at the terminal, banging into each other. That was it. We were off on a journey. one of the nights on the cruise, he said to me, “What are you doing after this?” I said, “Just going back home.” He said, “Do you want to change your plans and travel with me? I’m going to the UK. Do you want to tour with me around?”
What a compliment that he saw you the way he did with your gifts.
I got to travel with him and learn from him and sit in audiences, watching him work, Tony Stockwell, and some other people. It was just incredible but there were a lot of fears to face and there were a lot of tears along the way. Just human things that you’ve got to push through that you’ve never pushed through. You just get up to survive another day and go beyond. That’s all there is to experience while we’re here, just to continually go beyond the limitations that hold us back. Then there’s the story of the butterflies.
When you talk about the butterflies, I did hear a voice from the spirit world, loud and clear, like as a medium, we don’t always hear. I don’t and in a lot of other mediums, we don’t always hear the spirit’s voice like this, like you and I talking. Often if we’ve been pre-warned we do hear it. We hear it like this, loud and clear. I was at home in Sydney one day and I heard this voice say, “Your mom died today.” I wasn’t speaking to my mom. I hadn’t spoken to my mom. We’d had a little disagreement. You look back and think just how crazy all that is that we get so caught up in nothing.
I immediately picked up the phone. I had this whole overwhelming sense, “What if my mom did die? What if I hadn’t spoken to her?” I get to work with people in the other world. I get to sit with people who didn’t get to say goodbye. I knew the importance of talking to my mom if I had that opportunity again. I rang and my mom answered the phone. That caused me to try and think, “What were they trying to tell me? Was it a premonition? If my mom answered the phone and my mom wasn’t dead today, what was that all about?” I got to understand that it was a premonition.
No time in their world. I’m grateful that I heard that and I got another 6 to 9 months to visit my mom and spend time with my mom. That whole time, if that happened, the number 11 became relevant. You talk about signs, the number 11. I was getting on a plane at 11:00, it was 11 degrees, and we were landing at 11. It was all 11. I knew there was something to do with the number 11 as well in regards to a sign to my mom. I was trying to figure it out. Is there 11 days? Is it the 11th month? Is it the eleventh hour?
At that time, I guess the messages weren’t quite as clear. I had a little bit of a gauge when I received a message. Was the number 11 the 11th month? Was it the 11th hour? Was it 11 minutes, so to speak, just for your listeners? When I shared these stories with my other brothers and sisters, everybody always thought I was crazy. I was always back sheep, I was always different. I was always losing my marbles or something.
There she goes again, yes.
Anyway, there’s just so much in between all of that. When my mom did pass, I got a phone call and it was the first to the eleventh. The first to the eleventh, it was 11:00 in Australia and I jumped on a plane and there was a chance that she would have passed by the time I got to New Zealand. She did. She passed when I was on the plane. The interesting thing about that was I was trying to see what the time was in New Zealand because Australia and New Zealand on different time zones. I wanted to know the exact time when my mom passed so that I could ask one of my sisters because I just wanted to know.
You’re looking for validation.
I had this overwhelming sense from the spirit world in the airplane of knowing my mom was passing. That was when time was important to me. As you say, validation. Afterwards, when I landed in New Zealand, my mom had passed. My mom hadn’t spoken for a couple of days, but one of my sisters said she called out my name before she went to the spirit world. I just thought it was interesting that here I was suspended between the worlds doing the work that I do. It brings tears to my eyes. The beauty of it all of knowing that I’m between the worlds and my mom’s passing she’s between the worlds.
It was like, here we are together, but in a different way. It was just beautiful. When I left the hospital, my sister was very distraught and I got in her car and said, “I’ll drive.” When I got in the car, I said to her, “What is it with these butterflies?” Her car divisions for me. I see things very clearly. It was like her car was full of pretend butterflies. She’s like, she took my arm and she says, “Sis, what did you say?” She was crying and crying. Then she told me the story.
I wrote about it in my book, knowing how my mom, before she went to the other world, there were a couple of days where my mom was sitting, trying to catch this pretend butterfly and she told my sister it was the most beautiful iridescent color. I have a butterfly on my website and on my book. For me, butterflies are knowing that my mom’s around. It’s not that my mom’s a butterfly. We get so caught up in the human world, that we get into a dense place, and we think those in the other world aren’t with us.
The spirit worlds told me they’re omnipresent in our everyday life. They’ve told me that it’s us who shift our attention. I had to Google omnipresent because I didn’t even know what the word meant, let alone I could say it or spell it. I knew it didn’t come from me. That’s the significance of butterflies for me and my connection to my mom. Sometimes I might I might be feeling alone or I’m caught up in the human world. I feel that she might not be with me. As I talk about it now, it’s almost like she sort of hits me over the head.
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I’m here. I also feel butterflies represent transformation. You had such a transformation, so I could really see that being your symbolic, spiritual, total, or whatever. Speaking of butterflies, I want to ask you, because you’ve got a well-known bumblebee reading that you talked about in your book. Can you share that with everyone? Now you’re becoming a medium and you’re doing all of this. Actually, I have three questions for you. I want to hear about your Bumblebee reading and then whatever you can share with our listeners about the spirit world. I know you’d also talk to your book about what pets experience in the afterlife. Could you tell us a little bit about all of that?
I remember doing one of my first-ever readings in person and I was sitting with this girl and I’m hearing, “Bumblebee, bumblebee, bumblebee.” In those days I was probably a little bit in the way and I’m sitting there thinking, “This girl’s just paid me to come and have a session.” For the moment, all I feel I’ve got to give her is bumblebee. I may have said to her that there was a man from the spirit world. I don’t remember exactly, but I do remember the bumblebee and this girl when I said bumblebee, bumblebee, bumblebee she said to me, “What did you say?”
I said, “Bumblebee.” It was almost like I pierced her heart and the floodgates opened and she just sat there and these tears were just endless. They were just a flooded tears washing down on her. I’m thinking, “What just happened? Bumblebee, bumblebee, bumblebee.” I understand the significance of giving what we get. She says, “That’s my dad. It’s like, thank you.” That was the validation that she needed to know that her dad was with her in the spirit from the spirit world. I sat there looking at her thinking, “How did all this happen?” She said to me, “When my dad was alive, he was the trainer of the rugby team.”
I’m still thinking, “Bumblebee, Bumblebee.” She told me the name of the rugby team and I thought their colors were orange and black. I still didn’t get it because here I am thinking bumblebee yellow and black, but she had a whole story around how her dad was a trainer and they buried him with the jersey of the rugby team and here I am sitting there thinking the jersey, the rugby team, orange and black, that’s not a bumblebee.
Anyway, I shared the experience with my partner at the time and he told me that many years before the colors of the jumper were, yellow and black, gold and black. That was the colors of the bumblebee. I would never have known that. I would never have understood that. That was a big learning for me to get out of the way and know that it wasn’t about me and to just bring through what came through.
You’re also telling our listeners how it comes through for you. As a medium, you’re getting these visuals. You don’t always know these visions. What they are, but they’re putting very significant evidence in your head so that your sitter knows that this is their deceased loved one on the other side, without a doubt.
There are many ways that we receive whether we see, whether we hear, whether we feel, taste, or smell. There are many different ways. I’m actually very clairvoyant. I see very clearly. For those listening you’ve got to understand as well that those in the other world, it’s a miracle when you think that they can transfer energy to us. It is that they can impress images upon us or we can hear them, we can feel them, we can understand conditions.
It’s a miracle. It’s mind-boggling. There are many different ways. In my early days, I was happy to get anything. I was happy to be able to pass on anything whereas today it’s a lot more fluid for me. It’s like everything. You’ve got to step outside to grow. You’ve got to be prepared to be wrong. You’ve got to look fair in the face. You’ve got to get egg on your face because none of what we do is about us or us looking good. There were some other questions there you asked me.
I wanted to know what the spirit world is like to you and I wanted to know what pets experience in the afterlife.
For me, pets in the afterlife, I’ll go there first. It’s probably a quicker answer. To me, it’s no different. If I bring through an animal from the other world, it’s almost like they bring their life alive. They’re in solid form. They may show me that they’re walking along a path. The way they can impress images upon us is it’s hard to comprehend. They might show me that they’re in a beautiful place. It’s the same whether I can tell your loved ones are walking in the other world. It could be full of rainbows. It could be full of flowers. There are many different ways that you can feel it and see it.
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Is it like that in the other world? When I’m reading, I know that they’re impressing upon me that they’re in a beautiful place. I knew at that moment what they were trying to pass on to me. It’s no different for the animals. Nobody goes to the spirit world alone. This dog that just went to the spirit world, you’re talking to me, jumped into a man’s arm. Come on, I know they’re always impressing me and reminding me about things to share. Nobody goes to the spirit world. Animals, humans, nobody goes alone. There are always people there to greet us, whether it’s animals or humans, birds, or mice.
The most amazing thing for me was in the very early days when I got into this world, I was in a seance. Media looked at one of the people there and she said, “Why do I see five gerbils?” Gerbils like those little mice or those little gerbils that people get as pets? She said, “I see five gerbils around your deceased husband who’s coming through.” The woman said, “He had five gerbils as pets.” That was the first time, even those journals had gone to the other side.
The first night I publicly demonstrated in front of an audience, I had a parrot come through. Here I am standing there, thinking that I was there to deliver messages from the other world. I had this parrot and I went to this man in the audience, he’d been dragged along by his wife. Of course, he wouldn’t have believed anything that happened that night other than his parent came through and everything changed for him. It is, it’s interesting how it all works. What is it like in the other world?
When I’m communicating with those in the other world? Like I’ve said they can impress images upon us with where they are and how I can describe that to pass on to their loved ones here on the earth. Had many different experiences when I’ve just been going to start work and I’ve been in a millimeter of a second I might’ve closed my eyes and I’ve traveled down a hallway. At the end of the hallway, there’s a light and I’ve had a lesson and I understand there are many different rooms that we can stop in along the way before we go to the light.
There are many different ways to try and understand the other world. Mavis Pattillo is one of my dear mentors who’s now in the spirit world. She talks about worlds within worlds. I understand that in a way of teaching people on the earth that in the earthly world, there are many different houses in a street, and in those houses we all live different lives. It isn’t any different in the other world. I believe that we take our beliefs and we can reside in different layers, different levels in the other world. I believe that we can change our life here on the earth and we can change our life in the other world and move beyond where we think we may need to stay.
Life goes on. People in the other world are still evolving. Their life is continuing. My experience of going into the spirit world one night when I drifted off to sleep I asked the spirit world when I went to sleep if I could know more about their world and what it was like. That night I had this profound experience and I woke up the next day and I was encased in this euphoricness and all the colours of the rainbow for several days.
I sat at my computer trying to understand what I experienced in the sleep state and it was like I had total recall. It was almost like they showed me that I was a silhouette, which is interesting when you think of a silhouette. It’s like nobody like I was a silhouette and I was standing in the light. It just broke me, Irene. It was the most beautiful thing that I’ve ever experienced. We talk about the light and the other world and pure consciousness, free of form and love. It’s beyond trying to describe.
Knowing
It’s beyond description. To me, all our human filters are gone and you’re pure and you’re there and you’re experiencing all of it. Another thing I want to ask you about is in your book, which I really want to talk about your book because it’s wonderful and I think so many people will learn so much from it. You talk in your book about how we can know if our choices are coming from fear or from love. Would you like to talk to us about that? Then I have a couple of questions about your book.
I think if we’re all really honest and we look back, maybe it’s easier for people just right now listening to maybe look back at a time in their life when they made a life change and they look at what was going on in their life? What were they holding on to? What weren’t they able to do on their own or a multitude of things and where did their choice come from? Where did their choice come from? When I think of following the vision to go to New York. I just follow the pull from within. I’ve always been guided. Some people call it the intuition, the knowing, the voices from within.
If I didn’t listen to those and follow them, I wouldn’t be where I am today. I feel that if you’re able to take a leap of faith, that’s the place of love. That’s not the place of fear. Fear holds us back. It’s very limiting. Whereas you and I know and you and I have experienced the unlimitedness from surrendering. In my book, I talked about my fear of horses. Spending time with a beautiful horse, looking fair in the eye, and overcoming my fear on a human level, learning so much from him about unconditional love, how sensitive they are, and how awake we need to be. How present we need to be around such beautiful animals.
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That’s a wonderful story in your book about your experience with that force and how that helped you so much. I really want to ask you, because your book is very inspiring and uplifting. It’s called Knowing, and it’s your journey. You describe it and how you blossom through love and compassion, which we’re talking about as the unseen world revealed to you that love is the key to healing pain and movement. Talk to us about this and some of the many steps that have guided you to this place of eternal gratitude and peace. What else would you like everyone to know about your book? I think it’s a very uplifting book for people to read and to learn more about this world.
I have to give James Van Praagh credit for putting out a book because it was a very big challenge. I left school at 15. I was always in a dream state. The school didn’t really work for me. One of the biggest challenges for me was to write a book. I guess if I had been ruled by fear, I wouldn’t have put the book down. I think when you’re guided by those in the other world when you’re not alone, and when there’s more to this world than what any of us know, through all your experiences, you’ve just got to keep making changes. I think if we’re not making changes in our everyday life we’re not living.
My mom came to me from the other world and she said that to me. It’s on my website. Change is everything. If I had the mindset and the fear of I couldn’t write the book, which I was stuck in, come on, what do we come here for on into the earthly world? We come here to go beyond fear. We come here to learn about kindness. Why do we come to the earth? Why do we come here? What is it all about? I think the one thing for me right now is like facing all those things that hold us back, our challenges. You cannot be ungrateful for that.
For the miracles that occur in your everyday life, and the support that we get along our path, you come to this place of gratitude. You come to this place of kindness. When you talk about compassion, James Van Praagh was the person who told me that my work would be about compassion when I first met him. He was signing one of his books that I was purchasing from him. He put a heart on my book. He went to put a heart and I said, “I have a heart on my business card.” He said, “I’m not going to do the heart now. I’ll put something else.”
I talked to him about the work of mediums. I mentioned to him now there was a medium out there working who was just incredible. He could dot the I’s and cross the T’s and I would love to be like that. He said, “There’s only one person in the world that would ever be like that.” He said, “You’ll be known for the work of compassion.” I never understood what he was talking about. For those listening, if you see the cover of my book, I don’t know if you’ve realized I recreated through a vision, a very famous picture of somebody who was in the other world, who was known for compassion.
I’m not quite sure if you recognize it, but I kept getting a vision from Princess Diana. I kept seeing this vision when I was trying to do my cover, and I was like, “What are you trying to tell me?” I created that picture that she created, and then somewhere down the line, James Van Praagh’s words rang in my ear about the true work and the work that I’d been known for, about compassion. I mean, we get a little bit lost sometimes when we try and share things.
It’s just so overwhelming. It’s hard to comprehend how it all comes together when you just follow the Spirit’s voice but you cannot live in this world and not wake up giving thanks. There’s no better place that you would want to be or vibration that you’d want to live in than just giving thanks. Not just for everything that’s in your life, but for everyone. I mean, just everything.
Importance Of Self-Truth
That’s so beautiful. I think one of the lessons that you’ve received, which is really worth passing along to everyone, is about being true to yourself. Would you like to comment about that and the importance of healing that you feel that way?
You have to be true to yourself. I think that the many years of sitting in silence and turning my attention within when you’re lying to yourself. Being true to yourself, walking your path and your path not everybody around you is going to be happy when you’ve got to leave them or you’ve got to follow that path. It can be challenging for those around you. You can be called a lot of things, selfish, whatever.
That’s one of the things we learned in this world is to give up judgment.
When you get the pull from within, you just go where you need to go and where you’re called to go, and it is hard for a lot of people to comprehend. What was the last question?
I was talking about being true to yourself and the importance that we need to heal.
The healing world looks. When I first started the mediumship work, I would also do hands-on healing. I was a little bit torn, and Spirit said to me one day, for me, that I didn’t need to separate the two modalities, that it was through the messages that came through me, through the energy and the presence, that would affect people. I get to see that. I get to see that when Spirit comes in overlapping of energy and there’s this power that just emanates and through the evidence of memory that we’re able to bring to give to their loved ones.
That just pieces everything. You and I were talking a little bit earlier about the work that we all do and for me I see a lot of the work that I do as just planting seeds of hope. If I’m able to bring through something of importance or memory to someone in a sitting. For them, they leave the session and they go home and they think, “How did that person know that this is in my home, or how do they know about the passing day?”
I get to see it people come back to me, they email me, they tell me, and they start to think that there’s got to be so much more than what they understand when they’ve lost a loved one. It isn’t until a lot of people lose a loved one that this opens up for them. Then they start reading books, they start having their own experiences. You know what it’s like, and there’s a rippled effect that happens.
Offers And Programs
Let’s talk about changing consciousness with all the things that you do to help people. I know that you do private mediumship reading, you have a private psychic reading. You have group readings. You have a mentoring program. You have a Seeing Beyond program. Tell us all about that. You also have a special offer for our members today. Would you like to tell everyone all the ways that they can help themselves through Maryland and through your gift?
Help themselves. I think showing up is a big thing. Showing up is a big thing. Trusting their inner voice and being guided. I mean, going to my website, and your podcast, what you do is just wonderful. I’ve done Facebook Lives, I’ve done podcasts, and we do it because, for me, there may be somebody going through a difficult challenging time at 3:00 in the morning and they feel alone, but they’ve got a computer and they log on and they see one of your podcasts, something resonates.
Through that, the healing occurs for them and they get to know they’re not alone. Thank you for the tireless work that you do. No, thank you, because that’s why we do what we do. We know that there are people grieving. We know that there are people suffering. We know that people are alone, but we want them to know that they’re not alone. Nobody walks alone. The classes, they’re all on my website.
Someone can reach out to you if they want a private mediumship reading.
They can do a private reading and we’re going to offer a coupon. Anybody listening, can use the word unfoldment on my reading site. If they wanted a mediumship reading, there’s a coupon space and they type in unfoldment. It’s a $100 off. I’m not sure if the American conversion is at the moment.
We’ll put a link in.
It’s a very affordable session that I wanted to offer people who find me through you. I take many classes. I teach a lot these days. I love teaching. I love seeing other people’s experiences unfold and develop. I spend a lot of my time teaching. I have a lot of group classes, whether it’s Seeing Beyond, whether it’s Take Your Mediumship to Greater Heights. I also have a Beginner’s Guide to Spiritual Development, whether it’s five weeks.
I have Allow Me to Be Your Personal Guide. I tailor my events to people who come to me. I love mindfulness. I love meditation. I just love helping people get out of what they’re in as well. You talk about the healing part of it. There are many different ways that we can help people heal through anxiety, their mind, their mind clutter, and their mind attacks. It’s great to be able to do that.
What I perceive with you is that anyone who seeks you out is going to a place of total acceptance and love. There is no judgment at all and you are going to kind of hone in on what they need and who they are and work with them, which is such a beautiful offering.
Uplift their soul. The true work, Mavis Petula’s words. The true work of mediumship is the upliftment of the soul. We can do it in many different ways. You talk about fairness and love. If you’re not walking in a place of fear on the street and someone passes you, no judgment and you smile. They might not answer you, but from the look in their eye, they’ve been deeply touched. You know that they will go home and they’ll hold that moment in their heart, especially if they’re very lonely and they don’t have anybody. It’s just the importance of being present and being available.
Finding Joy
That’s beautiful. That’s wonderful. We will give all these links so people will be able to get onto your site and seek you out for all that you can do for them. I would like to know Marilyn Whall’s personal tip for finding joy in life.
Honor thyself.
That’s a beauty.
That’s just what I heard. Honor thyself. Don’t live someone else’s life. Honor thyself.
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Personal Insights
That’s beautiful, Marilyn. Marilyn, in closing, I would like to share this very meaningful quote from your book, Knowing, with our Grief and Rebirth podcast audience. We all know people who look out the window and imagine a beautiful garden while others see only the weeds. We can look at our own lives the same way. Do we see the amazing potential we hold within or are we too fearful to step into the life we are truly born to live?
The choice is ours. We have free will, but one thing is for sure, the years will pass, and our time in the physical body will end and we can either have poured our hearts into becoming all that we can be, or we can still just be looking at the weeds. How beautiful and how so very wise. I want to thank you from my heart for being the brilliant light for the spirit world that you are. Thank you from my heart for bringing your brilliant light to this illuminating interview on the show. Thank you so much, Marilyn.
Thank you.
Here is my loving reminder, everyone, that you can see the show notes and all the show’s episodes at IreneWeinberg.com. Make sure to follow us and like us on social @IreneSWeinberg on Instagram, Facebook, and wherever you get your podcasts, including YouTube. As I like to say, to be continued. Thank you again, Marilyn. Many blessings, and bye for now.
Thank you. It’s been my pleasure. Thank you.
Thank you so much.
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About Marilyn Whall
Marilyn Whall is a mentor, offers spiritual teachings, medium and author from Sydney, Australia. Marilyn has worked professionally as a medium for over 20 years and has a client base that stretches from her home in Sydney Australia to New Zealand, the United States, Singapore, India and the United Kingdom. She has worked in the USA teaching along side James Van Praagh, Tony Stockwell, John Holland and Jose Gosschalk.
Relying on evidence from the living survivors to authenticate messages from family, friends and loved ones in the spirit world, Marilyn’s work as a medium allows her to convey messages from the spirit world. Marilyn has a personal interest in mindfulness and philosophy and brings the passion through to her work with individuals and groups.
She leads classes, performs public demonstration and offers private readings via zoom and telephone. Marilyn also facilitates & mentors her own development programs, titled ‘Allow Me To Be Your Personal Guide’ ‘A Beginners Guide To Spiritual Development’ and numerous other programs for those wanting to enhance their spiritual abilities.
Renowned for her accuracy, compassion, and insight Marilyn has appeared on TV. Marilyn has been featured in Good Health & Medicine Magazine, The Sunday Telegraph, Body and Soul, The Times of India. Marilyn has been a featured guest speaker in the James Van Praagh chat room and also appeared as a guest medium on inSpirit TV. Marilyn has demonstrated in America at The Journey Within Church and been a guest speaker there. Marilyn has also been interviewed by Spirits Voice an on-line Community.
To those who want to develop similar skills or gain a more comprehensive understanding of the spirit world Marilyn offers mentoring programs and ongoing classes and workshops. For more information please go to the Shop Page
Marilyn has written her first book “Knowing” A Medium’s Journey. One Woman’s unfoldment of who she was and her walk into the Spirit world.
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