Sadie Beyl is a spiritual grief guide, the Founder of the inspiring and uplifting From Mourning to Light Grief Summits, and an admirable role model for grief to healing to transformation and rebirth. She was a professional architect who ran a small practice in Cape Town, South Africa with her architect husband, Paul Beyl while she was exploring her secret passion, spirituality, by attending meditation, Reiki, and energy healing classes, learning to read angel cards, reading esoteric books, participating in breathwork sessions, and more. When Paul died suddenly in a motorcycle accident in 2019, Sadie was already equipped with a spiritual arsenal of tools that helped her to heal and embrace her life again. Tune in to hear how, during her profound spiritual journey, Source opened another path for Sadie, which prompted her to sell her car, pack a suitcase, move to Italy, remarry, and begin her work as a spiritual grief guide. Sadie speaks to Irene about the incredible sign Paul gave Sadie the very first morning after he died, her belief that the grief journey can become a powerful spiritual awakening, and much more, for an enlightening and heartwarming interview with a very special woman!
IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL HEAR ABOUT THINGS LIKE:
- Amazing signs Sadie has received from Paul.
- How the grief journey can become an incredible spiritual awakening.
- How Sadie connects with angels and Archangels through angel card readings.
- True acceptance can free a person from being the victim in the movie of their life story.
- You can choose to become a victim or choose to be empowered to help others.
SOME QUESTIONS IRENE ASKS SADIE:
- What were the amazing events that led up to Paul’s motorcycle accident?
- What was the incredible sign Paul gave you the very first morning after he died?
- How can the death of a loved one cause a “dark night of the soul?”
- How does true acceptance free a person from being the victim in the movie of their life story?
- What inspired you to start planning your first inspiring and uplifting From Mourning To Light Grief Summit?
- Why do you say that life doesn’t have to be perfect to be wonderful?
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How Does Acceptance Free You From Being the Victim in the Movie of Your Life Story?
Introduction
I hope this finds each of you very well. I’m delighted to have the pleasure of interviewing Sadie Beyl, a Spiritual Grief Guide who is the Founder of the inspiring and uplifting, From Mourning To Light grief summits. Sadie’s mission is to help others navigate their dark period of grief with grace, light, love, and hope.
Full disclosure, I had both the honor and the pleasure of being invited to be a featured guest speaker at one of Sadie’s From Mourning To Light Grief Summits. Sadie is an admirable role model for grief, healing, transformation, and rebirth. Before becoming a Spiritual Grief Guide, Sadie was a professional architect who ran a small practice in Cape Town, South Africa, with her architect husband, Paul Beyl.
While married to Paul, she explored her secret passion, spirituality, by attending meditation, reiki and energy healing classes, learning to read angel cards, reading esoteric books, participating in breathwork sessions, and more so that when Paul died, suddenly in a motorcycle accident in 2019, Sadie was already equipped with a spiritual arsenal of tools that helped her heal and embrace her life. During that profound spiritual journey, the source opened up another path for Sadie, prompting her to sell her car, hack a suitcase, move to Italy, remarry, and begin her work as a spiritual grief guide.
I’m looking forward to talking with Sadie, who will be speaking to us from Pacentro, Italy, about the amazing events that led up to Paul’s motorcycle accident and the incredible sign Paul gave Sadie the very first morning after he died. Also, her belief that the grief journey can become a powerful spiritual awakening, the tools in her spiritual toolbox that assisted Sadie during her grief journey, how true acceptance can free a person from being a victim and more for what is surely going to be an enlightening and heartwarming interview with a very special woman who is truly a joy to know. Sadie, a warm, loving welcome to the show. It’s such a pleasure to have you here.
Thank you so much for inviting me. I’m very excited.
Sadie’s Relationship With Paul
It was exciting for me to be at your summit. In turn, I get to share you with my audience. It’s a wonderful thing. Let’s begin with this question because your whole life completely transformed. Can you tell us about your relationship with Paul and share the amazing events that led up to his motorcycle accident? How long were you married to him when all this happened?
How long were we married? We lived together for many years before we got married. I have to work it out. It’s easy to work out. Twenty years.
Could you tell us about your relationship with him and what happened? What were the amazing events that led up to the accident?
He and I loved running half marathons. He went off to run a famous gun run. It’s called The Gun Run in Cape Town. I decided not to run this particular one because I was suffering a bit from perimenopause, and I was feeling a little bit overweight and wasn’t that fit. Off he goes, and I get that call nobody ever wants to get where someone says, “Are you the next of Kenneth Paul Beyl?”
I said to the person it was a paramedic, “You can’t start a conversation like that. Is he okay?” He couldn’t tell me. He wouldn’t tell me. He said, “Come here to the hospital as quickly as you can.” I didn’t have a car. Paul had taken the car because we were avid motorcyclists. I said to him, “I have to climb on a motorcycle now, and I need to have my wits about me. Tell me if he’s okay.” He said, “Get your neighbor to drive you.” I knew it was serious.
We get to the hospital, and he’s alive, but he’s in a coma. Paul had suffered a massive cardiac arrest while he was running. One thing led to another, and the doctors eventually described that he’d had a secret heart attack before. They call it a secret heart attack because you don’t know what it is. The doctor said, “Did he suffer from heartburn?” I said, “There was a period where he did. For several days, he had severe heartburn.” I even said to him, “Would you like to see the doctor?” He said, “It’s heartburn, I’m fine,” but it was a partial cardiac arrest.
The doctor said it was an electrical fault that caused his heart to just stop suddenly, it beat very quickly, and then it stopped. They said they would like to put a device into his chest. He was out for four days. When he came around, he had pneumonia. He had to recover from the pneumonia, and then they put the device in his heart. He went off to run a half marathon and he came back then haggard, because pneumonia knocks the stuffing out of you, let alone a major cardiac arrest. The doctors said, “It’s amazing. He’s still alive. It’s a miracle.”
I want to tell you about these miracles because they tie into what happened afterward. When he dropped down, I later discovered there were four doctors immediately around him. What are the odds? They were right there, and they resuscitated him. That’s the reason he survived: because there was an organized race and an ambulance on hand. They took him immediately. There were paramedics. I asked the organizer of the race for the names of the doctors, and he gave me the name of an anesthetist.
It was the first day after Paul had been in the hospital. I called the doctor, but he didn’t reply. I thought, “He’s a doctor. He is obviously busy with whatever doctors do.” I sent him a message, and it was a long message. I explained Paul’s condition about the secret heart attack he’d had, the whole thing and I said, “Thank you for saving Paul’s life.” I sent the message but didn’t get a reply. It was in the back of my mind, but I didn’t send another message.
One day later, I get a message back from the doctor saying, “It’s ironic that you’re thanking me for saving Paul’s life when Paul has saved my life. I’m lying here in the hospital. What happened was after I resuscitated Paul, I decided not to continue on running it. Paul dropped in the middle of a 21-kilometer race,” around the 14, 10, 11 or 12 kilometers, I’m not sure exactly where. He decided, “I’m not feeling great. I’m going to go home now.”
He said, “When I received your message, it started me thinking about my symptoms. I called my doctor and he said, ‘Come in for some tests.’” He went in. His cardiologist did some tests on him and said, “I’d like to do some more tests. Could you come back tomorrow? We want to do additional tests.” He said, “When he got home that night, the symptoms fled up again,” and he knew what it was. He jumped in his car. He said the hospital was very close to his home, and he raced over to the hospital. He says that your message, not finishing the race, and all these things saved my life.
Paul revived. He had a pacemaker or whatever they put in his heart. He races again. When did he pass? How did that come about?
It’s all tied in. It’s incredible when you look back and you put all the pieces.
It’s like a choreography in a way.
It’s like when you were doing the washing up, you forgot that you had that message that said, “Paul is going to die. You forgot.” We are sitting in our office doing our architecture work. I looked at Paul and I just said to him, “You were dead, and now you’re alive. What is it you want to do with your one wild and precious life?” That’s a line from a Mary Oliver poem The Summer Day that I absolutely love. He said, “I’d like to go to Italy and guide motorcycle tours. I’d like to pack up architecture and just move to Italy,” because we loved Italy. We came here on holiday all the time. We were just obsessed with all things Italian. Even our motorcycles were Italian.
I said, “That’s what we’ll do.” We closed all our projects. We handed them over. We told everyone we were going. We sold all our furniture. We packed everything. We were down to a mattress on the floor and deciding which documents were essential for us to bring with us. That’s what we were down to. We were three days away from flying to Italy to start. We had people booked for the motorcycle tours. We had two tours we’d put online. A big group of women wanted to do the second tour with us. People had paid deposits. It was happening.
Paul didn’t want to sell his motorcycle. He wanted to store it at a friend’s house, and then once we were settled in Italy, he wanted to ship it over. He was on the motorcycle. I was following in the car behind. He went to put in fuel. We are driving along this most beautiful road in Cape Town that goes right along the beach. There’s a nature reserve, the road, the beach, and the sea, and big waves are rolling in. It’s the Atlantic. It’s so beautiful. Paul went past me on the motorcycle. He’d filled in with fuel.
He was a lot quicker than the car. The motorcycle can weave between the traffic. He waved, and I waved at him. He passed me. I started to cry. I just got this well of sadness, and I just cried. I thought, “Where is this coming from?” I know I’m sad to leave Cape Town, but I’m not that sad. I’m more excited about going towards this new exciting life that we are planning. Eventually, the tears stopped and the road went inland, away from the sea towards the Winelands.
As I’m going along, I see motorcycles down. I think, “Oh no.” There’s a motorcycle down. Being motorcyclists, you are always very aware. I’m getting ready to send white light and good energy to this person, and then I realize it’s Paul. You know how quick your thoughts are. I just pulled my car over and jumped out of my car. I’d love to say I rushed over and performed CPR, it’s as if someone shut my brain off. I just ran around in a circle.
You were shocked.
It just couldn’t compute. I saw a man standing next to a white truck, and he was going, “It’s all my fault.” What had happened was that he’d suddenly changed direction on this major road and Paul had T-boned him. I knew Paul was dead. I’d arrived at that scene, and I just knew. Suddenly, I heard Paul breathe. He took in such a deep breath as if he’d been underwater. I ran over to him and I realized his cardiac device had shocked his heart into animation again. Two ambulance rides and two hospitals later, the young doctor came out and said, “I’m sorry. Your husband’s injuries are too severe. He didn’t make it.”
Grief As A Spiritual Awakening
I’m sorry. I’ve had the same experience. I lost Saul in a car accident. We both did lose them. They’re on the other side. Still, it’s such a shock. Why do you say that the grief journey can become a powerful spiritual awakening when a person becomes aware? Now you go into grief over Paul. Did you continue on to Italy with this or did everything stay still and now you came back to Cape Town?
I was in no state. I was in such shock, Irene, that I felt like I was a meter up in the air. I felt like my feet wouldn’t touch the ground when I walked. I had to stomp my feet to feel the ground. I was in tremendous shock.
That night, you slept back in Cape Town.
My very good friend stayed with me at the hospital. They announced Paul did at 3:17 in the morning. My friend hugged me and said to me, “Breathe,” because I stopped breathing. He had to say it several times. I realized why I did that. I wanted time to stop. I felt as if I held my breath; I could stop time because time was taking me further away from Paul. The last time I’d seen him, the last time I’d spoken to him. In fact, this was a theme that carried on for a good few days after Paul had died. I wanted time to stop. I was in a panic about it.
I can understand that.
My friend and his wife are my best friends. They were mine and Paul’s best friends. We were planning to go and stay with them for the last few nights before we flew out. He just took me home with him, and I stayed in their spare room for a few months.
Signs From Paul
Wasn’t there an incredible sign Paul gave you the very first morning after he died, and then you’ve also received other signs from him?
Yeah, incredible sign.
Do you want to tell us about that? What did he do that said to you, “Sadie, I’m still here.”
I go home with my friend in the early hours of the morning. I went into the spare room and I fell asleep. I wasn’t insomniac. I think I was just emotionally exhausted. As I was waking up, before I opened my eyes, I heard the clunk of a coffee cup on the bedside table. I heard Paul’s voice ought to be, say, “Sade,” which is how he woke me up every single morning. He was right there. When I opened my eyes, I was so confused because I wasn’t in my bedroom. I was in my friend’s spare room, and then I came flooding back, but I was going be tricks in between, “Paul was right here, but he’s died, but he was right here.” That very first morning, I didn’t wake up without Paul. He was right there.
You have received some other signs from him since he transitioned, haven’t you?
Loads of them.
Can you tell us for our audience who are saying, “What signs can I look for for my loved one?” What kinds of signs has Paul sent you?
The first sign I’m going to tell you about is based a lot on trust, and because I’d done all of those spiritual modalities that you mentioned in your introduction, I was in my friend’s house. I couldn’t cry because I didn’t want to upset them. Every time I got in my car, I cried. Everyone said to me, “You’re in such shock,” which was true, “You need to see someone.” I went to see a psychotherapist. I’m sure loads of people are helped by psychotherapists. I’m not knocking them at all, but it did nothing for me. My grief wasn’t in my mind. It was in my body. I try reiki. I go off to somebody for reiki and I’m lying there. It’s a freezing cold day. She’s got these lovely, soft, fluffy blankets. She tucks me up. It was maternal and motherly.
This was exactly what you needed.
She puts these beautiful crystals on me, and I just stopped crying. I cried for an hour and a half for the whole reiki session. While she was doing the reiki, she said, “Paul’s guides are here.” I went, “Oh.” She says, “They’ve got a message for you. They’re saying, did Paul give you a book of poems?” I love poetry. He did. He gave me a beautiful book of poems. In fact, it’s behind me. It’s this blue one here, on my bookshelf.
She said, “There’s a poem in there called How Do I Love Thee? Let Me Count The Ways. Paul says they are poems for you, so go and look them up. Go and read it. That’s what his guides are saying.” The reiki session ends, and we have a little chatter afterward. She says, “I’ve never channeled anything or anyone in my life, let alone a dead person’s guides. I just want to let you know. I don’t know where that came from.” I said, “Okay, but he did give me a book of poems. I’m going to go look at the poem now.”
A cup of coffee and a book of poems. He was setting you up for your activities the next day.
I’m still living with my friends he’s a good cook. We sit in the kitchen while he cooks, and I tell him the story. He pours us a nice glass of red wine. He and his wife are journalists. They rush off to get their respective books of poems because I don’t have anything on me. The very few items that were left in the house were packed into boxes and were with my friend, with whom we were going to leave the motorcycle. I don’t have my book. They come back, and we read the poem and cry together because it’s such a beautiful poem. A few weeks later, I go to that friend’s house where my box is, and I rummage around and get this book. It comes with a ribbon that you can mark your place. It’s fixed into the book. I’m flipping through the book and I get to where the ribbon is marking. It’s that poem.
Why am I not surprised? Amazing.
I almost screamed. It was just another confirmation to trust that this is from Paul.
In your way, with all that you knew about these healing modalities and all your grief journey became a spiritual awakening for you, would you say?
On a deeper level than it had been before. I thought I was virtually awake, but it tested my intuition, faith and my belief that Paul was still there and watching over me and then there were so many other signs.
Do you want to give us 1 or 2 others? Do you have any others?
Sure. Finally, I woke up one morning and I decided that I needed to do something with my life. I can’t live in my friend’s spare room. I don’t have a job. I don’t have a home. I don’t have a husband anymore. All I have is a car. I’m just thinking, “What am I going to do?” I started to think, “I could go work for an architect. I’ve got a lot of friends. I could just go and join somebody in Cape Town, and then I could get a flat, I suppose, and then buy furniture,” then I was just thinking, “It’s not appealing. I can’t go backward.” It repelled me. It was not something I was excited to do at all. I thought, “I could go to Italy,” and it was always shocking. I was like, “Could I?” I knew I couldn’t guide a motorcycle tour, not on my own. I couldn’t climb back onto my motorcycle after that.
I just want to interject it because Saul and I were skiers. We skied all over Europe and all over the United States. It was very much a part of our lives. After the accident, we had been coming home from a ski weekend. I never skied again. I always called skiing what I did for love with Saul because I originally came from Florida. I wasn’t a skier I took to it to be with him, and then once our accident happened, that was it for me.
I took to motorcycling because of Paul.
There you go, but you decide to go to Italy.
I decided I’ll go and see because we had a holiday home here. I thought, “I’ll go traveling.” My family is in London. I felt I needed to see my family, and then I thought, “I’ll go to Italy and I’ll just see.” I did that. I went to London. I had a lovely Christmas there. I came to Italy and I found a kitten. I was pulling our door cats. I was walking through the land. There was this tiny kitten. The stray cats are very scared of you. They don’t come up to you.
A little boy was stroking this little kitten. I thought, “I wonder if it’ll let me stroke it.” I went up to the kitten. The father had got the boy away and said, “The kitten is dirty.” I went up to the kitten. I had a scarf on and it climbed up the scarf and snuggled in my scarf. It was dirty and thin. I started crying because I knew it was another sign from Paul. That was on the first day I arrived. I thought, “Paul knew if I got a cat, I would stay.”
What did you name the cat?
Jasmine.
Didn’t you have experience with a neighbor and roses in the midst of your grief? Do you want to tell us about that? That’s an amazing story.
Before I started to think, “What am I going to do with my life?” I felt very lost and very shocked. There’s a beautiful farm in Cape Town called Chart Farm. They grow roses. They have this hillside covered in different colored roses, and you can go and pick them. It’s such a beautiful place. Paul and I went there. It’s stunning, with views of the mountains. You can go and have tea there. One day, I was feeling down and I thought, “I know I’ll go to Chart Farm and have tea, and I’ll pick roses. That’ll make me feel better.” I get to Chart Farm. I cried every single day. I get in my car and just. I got to Chart Farm and cried. I took the basket and the secret tears and wandered through the roses, crying, catching them and smelling them.
I cut far too many roses. I thought, “It’s okay. I’ll just tie them into different bundles and I’ll give them away.” Across the road from where I was staying was a lady. I hadn’t met her or spoken to her, but she’d lost her husband a few months before Paul had died, and she had children. That’s why I hadn’t met her. We just said hello in passing because she was very busy and also dealing with her grief. I gave roses to the lady I was staying with my very good friend, then I thought, “I’ll go across the road and I’ll just go give her a bunch of roses,” because we are in this together. I knocked on her door and I chose six beautiful roses. I gave them to her and she counted them in the instant. She burst into tears she said, “Today marks the day six months ago that my husband died. Here you are on my doorstep, bringing me six roses,” then we had tea together, and we both cried.
As you were getting messages from Paul, you brought her light and a message from her husband, how beautiful? It is wonderful. You went through and you talk about how the death of a loved one can cause this dark night of the soul, which you were going through, which I’ve gone through. It opens us up to big questions, which is you opened up spiritually, you started to discover the answers to some of these questions, “What happens when we die? Where has my loved one gone? Why are we here? What is the meaning of life? How can I ever feel happy again?” Have you discovered the answers to any of these questions since you’ve been opening up spiritually? You’ve had this awakening. Would you like to enlighten some of us about that?
Sure. There’s one story that illustrates this well. Deep in my grief, I got to the point where I didn’t want to live anymore without Paul. I just, “What is the meaning?” Life had lost its meaning for me. I didn’t have a home or a job. I lost my best friend, my partner, my everything. I just thought, “I have no purpose. There’s no reason for me to be here. I’d probably be better off just joining him.”
I was alone on the beach, and it was quite deserted. I thought I could just walk into the sea and just keep walking. No one would notice, and I’ll just go under and maybe they’ll find me. Maybe they won’t. It doesn’t matter. I was seriously contemplating that, even though I was spiritually aware and all of that. I felt that I didn’t want to be here anymore. I strongly felt I would never be happy again. I couldn’t conceive of anything that would light me up. It wasn’t there.
What happened?
I didn’t do it. I didn’t walk into the sea. I caught myself and I thought, “You need to shake this mood. What would tear you up?” I thought ice cream. I love ice cream. Being in Italy with all the gelato here, I’m in heaven. In there I saw a little ice cream shop. I thought, “I’ll go and get an ice cream and eat an ice cream. That might do the trick.” I walked into the ice cream shop and I didn’t say anything. I just ordered an ice cream from this very young, vibrant guy behind the counter.
He was just full of life, full of beans. He said to me, “Would you like a small, a medium, or a large?” I just asked for a vanilla soft flu. I said, “Just a small one. Thanks.” He winked at me. They’ve got those machines. He created the largest vanilla soft-serve ice cream I’ve ever seen in my life. He took a stick of chocolate. It’s a soft, flaky chocolate. He stuck it in and he said, “Here’s your small ice cream.” He charged me for a small. I said, “That’s the biggest small I’ve ever seen in my life.” He went and took me. I walked outside and I thought, “What just happened?” Energetically, he must have known. I realized he lifted my mood so much. He was so generous, winky and full of fun. It shifted my mood completely.
What was the message you got from that? What did you learn from that?
I was being watched over, and then I trusted that Paul was doing what he could behind the scenes to make sure I was okay. I went for a walk in nature the next morning, and I sat on top of the hill crying again and I said to him, “I’m never going to see you again.” His voice audibly came and said, “That’s not true. We will see each other again because you are going to die, but not now.”
Spiritual Tools And Healing Journey
What a wonderful message, though, in a way, because that sustains me and also because I know I will see Saul again. You had many tools in your spiritual toolbox. What specific tools would you say helped you the most in your grief journey to help you to begin to heal?
The first one was the awareness that the reiki would help, and it did. It helped me release my emotions. I went for several sessions. I got loads of messages from Paul’s guides and because I was spiritual and I trusted his guides were coming through this lady who helped me tremendously. The other thing I did was meditation. I’ve always meditated. I’ve been doing it for many years, and it’s a habit.
Is it a guided meditation or do you just close your eyes and see what comes to you?
It depends on my mood. If I find my mind is too distracted, I’ll find a guided meditation, but I can do transcendental meditation. I can just sit quietly and breathe. I’ve practiced a lot of breathwork. If my energy’s very low, I’ll practice breathwork to bring my vibration up. On some days, I would do EFT tapping to just bring me back to some kind of operating normal. I want to hesitate to advise people about these things because if you have not practiced doing them, you may be tempted to use them so that you avoid feeling your emotions and that’s not a good thing because the first thing I promised myself is that I would cry when I want to cry.
I wasn’t going to swallow my tears down. I wasn’t going to pretend I wasn’t sad. I promised myself that I would express my emotions and get them out because I know energetically and I’ve studied this is if you don’t, it’ll create imbalances energetically just ease within your energetic bodies and eventually disease. It can literally make you ill.
You have healed so much and now you help other people. I know you connect with angels and archangels through angel card readings and you have guided past life regression sessions. Tell us about that. Now, you’re passing it forward to help others in their grief. If someone wants to reach out to you for an angel card reading or past life regression session, do you want to tell us about that and what you do?
It happened by accident. I was doing Tony Robbins Unleash The Power Within while I was here in Italy because it was COVID. I couldn’t go anywhere. I couldn’t practice architecture. I couldn’t leave my house to go to an interview to find a job. I was just online, as most people were. I decided that I could use my spiritual gifts to help people. I hadn’t thought of that before. I was on the focus of, “Let me climb back into architecture again.” I started to do angel card readings for people because they’re an easy way to help people. It’s not you telling people what to do. It’s coming from the angels, which is easier to hear also that little guidebook. People have channeled that information already. it’s beautifully jenky written. You’re saying things in a very in a very kind way.
It’s at those people’s angels coming through or are there angels you’re working with when you do the angel card reading?
I use other people’s cards, so the book’s already written. I get messages from my guides while I’m with this person. They put things in my head. Something will come up and then I’ll say, “I’m getting a message about this.” For example, one woman had to fall in and hurt herself. She couldn’t get out of bed because she was immobile now. I said to her, “I keep getting this message that you are immobilized.” She said, “Yes, my car’s broken. She was able to walk. She couldn’t get in her car and go anywhere.” I said to her, “I’m just getting this message. You are immobilized, but it’s for a reason.”
We went through the car to figure out why. Another client, we went through the cards and I said, “Did this situation ever come up in your childhood before?” It looked like something she needed to clear. She said, “No.” I said, “Are you sure?” Generally, when you’re in grief, all your unresolved trauma comes to the surface to be dealt with. You know that. I said to her, “Did something traumatic happen in your childhood?” I could see by her face, genuinely nothing had. I got that voice in my head that said, “Past lives.” I said to my head, “Are you sure, my guides?” I said to our client, “They’re telling me it’s a past life issue and I can regress you, but I’ve never done it before. Are you open to trying it?” She said, “Sure.” We did it.
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Did you put her in a hypnotic situation and you knew how to do that?
Yes. With the past life regressions, she’s in total control or whoever goes. I guide them to go and discover, “Ask. Show me why is this happening?” The person gets taken to the correct past life that is directly linked to this life, and they can get the connection, then they see it. I can’t see it, but my guards are continually guiding me. I’m asking them, “What do you see now? What’s happening?” My guides are saying, “Ask this. Ask that.”
With this one lady, she’d had an affair and became pregnant by a man she wasn’t married to at a time when it wasn’t acceptable. She was shunned by society. My guides were saying to me, “Whore.” I said to her, “Are people shaming you about this? Are they calling you a whore?” It’s a strong thing to say, but it invoked the emotion for her to go there emotionally. It was almost like a shock thing. I would only do it if my guides guided me to do that. I would never do it to hurt someone, but it helped her resolve this pattern in her life. She’s broken it now.
It sounds like you do this for a lot of people. You also talk about the fact that true acceptance can free a person from being the victim in the movie of their life story. That is very profound. Would you like to tell us a little more about that?
While I was living in my friend’s house and before I came to Italy, I decided I needed a road trip. I needed to get out of the house. I needed to be by myself and just come to grips with it because I think my grief was strong at that time. I was feeling very sorry for myself. In the reiki session, Paul’s guides said, “Go to the forests, and you’ll meet someone who will help you.” Late at night in grief, I just booked a cabin on Airbnb, packed a little suitcase, got in my car and off I went on a road trip to the nice forests and the wilderness.
You are a brave lady. That was very courageous.
I did a lot of crying, though. I get to the wilderness. I’m staying in this Airbnb and the lady lets me in. I meet her. We had a little chat, and then we kept bumping into each other because Airbnb was on her property.
This was at the time in Cape Town.
It is before I decided to move to Italy. I bumped into her one day and she said, “Come and have dinner with me.” The next night I went there and she was very ill. She said she had flu, a very bad influenza. She said, “I’m so sorry, I can’t cook for you.” I said, “I’ll cook. Why don’t you lie on the couch?”
You were willing to do this. You weren’t worried about getting her flu or anything?
No. I said to her, “You stay on the couch under your blankets.” It was winter. I said, “I’ll cook,” and then we started chatting. She told me her husband had died five years earlier. She told me about her life. It was so full. She had all of these things that she was doing, all these young people and she was guiding youth groups and friends and trips she had planned. She wanted to build a food forest. She was just full of life. She was still grieving her husband. She still missed him tremendously, but she was living her life. At one point, I said to her, “I’m glad I can see that you are where you are five years down the line. It gives me hope that maybe I could be there too.” She said, “You can choose to be a victim in the movie of your life, or you can choose to be the heroine.”
That is very profound.
She guided and counseled young ladies who’d been raped. She had a whole arsenal of tools. She would say to those young ladies, “You can see this as the worst thing that’s ever happened to you. You’re never going to be okay again or it can empower you to help others in this situation”.
That’s wonderful and very wise.
She’s the one who got me there and again through Paul.
From Mourning To Light Grief Summits
You didn’t even know her in here. She is an angelic woman who comes into your life. You get to Italy and you start doing these uplifting From Mourning To Light brief summits. Do you want to tell us about that? How come you choose 21 guest speakers? How do you choose them? Tell us all about that. You’ve created your own compassionate space to support people.
It happened with Tony Robbins Unleash The Power Within. You do a little exercise. It’s a hierarchy of needs and what drives you to do what you do. I did the exercise, but I had a distinct split. I had this Sadie before Paul died priority list and the Sadie after Paul had died priority list. After Paul died, Sadie had this huge open, compassionate heart. Not that I wasn’t a compassionate person before, but not on this level. It hit home to me that I’ve got the tools. I need to help people and it became such a spiritual moment that I got a message from Paul that it’s part of the journey. That’s why he went first because I’m meant to do this.
I can relate. Our stories are so similar.
It was quite a watershed moment. It gave such a depth of meaning to Paul’s passing, and then I realized I needed an audience. I discovered that there was this lady training people on how to put events on. A light bulb just went on, and I thought, “That’s it. That’s what I’m going to do. I’m going to do an event on grief.” The training is 21 speakers, which is a magical number. I love the number. They train you to just go and look for people.
I took my compassionate, scared heart in my hands and I contacted people. I sent them an email. I said, “Would you be interested in appearing in a grief summit?” Thinking they’re all going to say no because I am nobody. Nobody knows who I am. I’m not anything in the grief space. All of these people are important. They’ve written books and they have podcasts, but everyone was so kind. Everyone I contacted said, “What a wonderful thing you’re doing. Yes, we’d love to be at your event,” it surprised me how many people said yes.
How wonderful, and I was one of them. You’ve done four of these now. Are you planning a fifth? Do you want to tell us about that?
Sure. I have a business partner. Her name is Emily Thirous Threatt. She was a guest and we just clicked. We did the fourth event together at the beginning of the year, around April. She’s part of the Grief And Happiness Nonprofit Alliance. She chooses 10 speakers and I choose 10. Maybe we’ll have another one. We’ll see how it all pans out. We interview the chosen people and then put it all together, and it’s worked well. We are doing another one. It’s coming out in October 2024.
I was honored to be part of the one you had in April. It was lovely. What else would you like to say?
The event is free because both Emily and I want to reach as many people as we can as you do with your podcast. Emily also has a podcast. The event is free, but there’s a VIP upgrade that you pay for where you receive and keep all of the recordings. All of the proceeds of that goes to the Grief And Happiness Nonprofit Alliance. It’s all for a good cause.
Transformation Workshops
It’s all connected like we all are. You have a ten-week transformation workshop. You have guided meditations for Inner peace. Tell us about those and any other offerings that you’d like to share with our audience. I’d love to know 1 or 2 examples of how your transformation workshops have helped people.
The transformation workshop is for people who come to that stage of their grief and feel they haven’t resolved it. There are still things that are coming up in their past trauma, but they don’t even know that. They just feel that they’re not getting on with their lives. I’ve helped people who’ve gone through divorce, which is grief.
It’s a death in a lot of ways. It’s grief.
I meet them where they are. It’s a one-on-one. If anyone’s interested in working with me personally, there’s a form on my website. Just send me an email and I’ll set up a call and then we’ll see if it’s the right fit for you. The transformation course, depending on where the person is, I start with angel cards and some people want them every single session. They want to know what the angels have to say. Sometimes, we are guided to go back to our past lives. I do a lot of guided and resolution meditations with them.
If there are unresolved issues with the person who’s passed on, then we go and meet them in a meditative state and then they tell them what’s unresolved and then they wait for their loved one to answer to give them clarity or closure, and it works. Everyone who’s gone on this guided meditation gets a resolution. Sometimes, it’s with the other family members. Sometimes, it’s not with the person who’s passed on. Sometimes, when the person who’s passed on causes a very unhealthy dynamic in the family, there’s a lot of fighting and misunderstanding. Everyone’s in grief, and I help to resolve that, too.
That’s horrible. Does this transformation workshop inform an individual thing or something that you do with a group of people?
At the moment, it’s face to face transformation workshop.
Do you do it online with people like on Zoom or whatever?
Yes.
Do you have on the top of your head an example of someone, your transformation workshop to help, like a situation she came with and how that was resolved? Is there any either with death, divorce or whatever?
There’s one lady that comes to mind that was a surprise. She came because her husband passed away, but he wasn’t with her. He had a house that was fixing up in another state. He was ill, but he wasn’t on the death door. He just had some issues, then he went up to work on that house. He wasn’t with her for the weekend, so he just lay down on a bench in the garden at the house, folded his hands over his chest, and they found him like that.
She was angry because he knew he was going to die because of the position he was in. Almost like he laid down to just go, I think he had something in his aorta. I can’t remember clearly. It was a while ago. This sticks with me, as if he must have felt something. He knew he was going to die he didn’t call her. He didn’t call an ambulance. He just laid down and waited for death. She was so angry about that. She wanted a resolution. She wanted to know why he would do that.
I can understand that. She felt that he had abandoned her that way. How did you help her in your transformation workshop?
We went and did this meditation where I described where you go, and she could say to him, “Why didn’t you call me?” I could clearly see the angels came to take him. He didn’t have time. They came and they said, “It’s your time.” He went, “Okay.” He laid down and they took him. He didn’t have the presence of mind to call anyone, but he knew it wouldn’t have helped anyway. He could have called an ambulance, but the angel said, “It’s your time. We’ve come to take you.”
Did that give her peace when you got that message?
Tremendous peace. Another piece on that is that because it’s ten weeks, there were other issues that came up. One of the issues was she came on and she said, “I didn’t realize that I am coping with my grief by drinking. Since we’ve had these sessions together, I’ve come to that awareness. I wouldn’t have had that self-awareness without these sessions.” She bought a book on how to stop drinking, and she did. She stopped drinking.
Encouraging Healing And Moving Forward
That is truly a transformation. How wonderful. I also want to ask you why you believe it’s important for each of us to do our healing work. You’re telling us how you help people release their trauma and stuck emotions, which helps the healing process. Why should people not stay stuck in their healing and go through the pain to move through their grief and move forward? Do you have anything you’d like to share with our audience about that?
I think society can be a bit harsh on people who are grieving. There’s this idea that after a year you should be over it. In fact, some people even have a time shorter than that. There’s a lot of pressure on people who are grieving to be okay again when they are really not feeling okay. That’s the sad thing about society. Tied into that is a person who’s grieving almost becomes angry and defiant about it, “I’m in grief. Leave me alone.”
The danger of that is you start to identify as a person who’s in grief, who’s in pain, who’s never going to be happy again, which is exactly where we both were. We know that feeling. When they come to the place where they can move forward, they’re just too scared or don’t have the self-awareness, or they just don’t take that leap of faith. They’re seeing the signs. They’re just not trusting them. They say to themselves, “I’m just imagining it.” They’re closing down.
They’re choosing to suffer for the rest of their lives.
It’s a choice. It’s like when I went to that woman in the woods. She said to me, “You choose now.” From that conversation, I decided, “Maybe I can go to Italy.” I can’t emphasize enough. Just get the community around you. Emily has this beautiful meeting that happens every single week. If you find my website, I link to hers and you can go meet with her. I’ve just launched a meditation group called The Zen Room. It’s very important to find the people that you resonate with in grief. Not everyone’s for you. Psychotherapists are not for me, but they might be the perfect thing for you. Just explore. My advice is go on Facebook, listen to podcasts, find your group and find your tribe.
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Many people are doing that by reading this. Why do you say that life doesn’t have to be perfect to be wonderful, and how does that lead to joy?
I had a box in my closet that I put all my socks and pantyhose into; otherwise, it would have been a mess all over the show. It had a quote from Marilyn Monroe on it, “Life doesn’t have to be perfect to be wonderful.” It just feels glamorous. Marilyn Monroe said it, and after Paul died, that stuck in my brain. Paul isn’t here anymore. Therefore, life isn’t perfect, but it doesn’t mean it can’t be wonderful.
Closing
You’re moving on. Look at all the people who you’re helping. That’s wonderful. In closing, I want to thank you for all you do and you do much to help people find solace, wisdom and support through both your healing work and your wonderful, truly healing From Mourning To Light summits, which are helping many people to navigate their grief journey with grace and love.
I also want to thank you from my heart for this insightful and enlightening interview on the show. Here is a loving reminder to make sure to follow us and like us on social @IreneSWeinberg, on Instagram, on Facebook, and on YouTube. As I like to say, to be continued. Thank you for my heart, Sadie. Many blessings, and bye for now.
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About Sadie Beyl
Sadie Beyl is the founder of the “From Mourning to Light” online grief summits and is currently planning the fifth event. Sadie was a professional architect who ran a small practice in Cape Town with her architect husband, Paul Beyl. After Paul died in a motorcycle accident in 2019, Sadie sold her car, packed a suitcase and moved to Italy. Besides the “From Mourning to Light” grief summits, Sadie is a spiritual grief guide who assists those in grief through her 10 Week Transformation Workshop incorporating: meditation, mindfulness, Angel card readings, past life regression sessions and Reiki.
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