GAR Elizabeth Boisson | Helping Parents Heal


Elizabeth Boisson is the remarkable President and Co-Founder of Helping Parents Heal, the inspiring non-profit organization dedicated to assisting bereaved parents to become Shining Light Parents by providing support and resources to aid in the healing process. Elizabeth is also the Affiliate Director of the Phoenix/Scottsdale chapter of Helping Parents Heal, the Editor of the Helping Parents Heal newsletter, a Helping Parents Heal Caring Listener, and a certified yoga instructor.


  • The shared death experience Elizabeth had with her son Morgan at the base camp of Mt. Everest in Tibet and how it transformed her.
  • The wonderful resources Helping Parents Heal provides for parents and families of children who have passed.
  • There are 130 chapters of Helping Parents Heal in the United States and which countries outside the United States also have chapters.
  • The documentary that features members of Helping Parents Heal called “Life to Afterlife, Mom, can you hear me?” which can be viewed for free on Amazon Prime and YouTube.



  • Is it truly possible to heal from the passing of a child?
  • What is a Shining Light Parent?
  • What is a Helping Parents Heal Caring Listener?



‘Life to Afterlife, Mom, Can You Hear Me?’ a documentary that was produced last year by Craig McMahon – free on Amazon Prime.


Elizabeth is also a Caring Listener and an Affiliate Leader with Helping Parents Heal and her phone number and email are on our website: 480-363-5275,

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Elizabeth Boisson: President And Co-Founder Of Helping Parents Heal





I truly hope to find each of you so very well. I’m speaking to you from my studio in West Orange, New Jersey, beyond delighted to welcome Elizabeth Boisson, the remarkable President and Cofounder of Helping Parents Heal. The inspiring nonprofit organization is dedicated to assisting bereaved parents to become shining light parents by providing support and resources to aid in the healing process.

Helping Parents Heal goes a step beyond other groups because it allows the open discussion of spiritual experiences and evidence for the afterlife in a non-dogmatic way. Welcoming everyone regardless of religious or non-religious background and allowing for open dialogue. Elizabeth will be speaking to us from Cave Creek, Arizona, for what will be her second interview on the show. In addition to being the President and Cofounder of Helping Parents Heal, she is a Certified Yoga Instructor who teaches many different styles of yoga, including yoga for healing, grief, and yoga nidra, which is similar to guided meditation.

I’m looking forward to talking with Elizabeth about the incredibly touching, uplifting book titled Life to Afterlife – Helping Parents Heal, The Book, which is based on the documentary created by producer Craig McMahon titled Life to AfterLife: Mom, can you hear me? This stirring documentary explores the significant shift in perspective that progressed as seventeen parents who are members of Helping Parents Heal developed communication with their children and spirit.

I’m also eager to talk with Elizabeth about the amazing signs their son Morgan and other kids featured in the book have sent to their parents to help them heal, ten ways to heal from the passing of a child. The incredible conference Helping Parents Heal is holding in Arizona and more. The wonderful and beautiful Elizabeth. What a true pleasure to welcome you back to the show.

The pleasure is all mine. What a beautiful introduction. I truly appreciate it and it’s always so much fun to talk to you. Thank you for having me.

To everyone reading, I have a perpetual rain check. If we ever can connect between New Jersey and Arizona, we are getting that glass of wine, for sure. Let’s begin our interview by, once again, introducing our readers to you and sharing why you founded Helping Parents Heal. You have 4 beautiful children, 2 of whom are in spirit. Your daughter Chelsea passed when she was two days old. When your 20-year-old son Morgan transitioned 18 years later, your life was profoundly transformed. Please tell us about Chelsea and Morgan, the shared death experience you had with your son Morgan at the base camp of Mount Everest and Tibet, and how that shared death experience transformed you to cofound Helping Parents Heal years later.

I would love to. I feel so grateful to talk about this story because I don’t do it very often. I always love to be able to remember, especially about Morgan. Chelsea was born. Chelsea is my daughter, who was born in France. I had been pregnant with her then had to go to the hospital and be in the hospital for two months on an IV because my pregnancy was difficult. When she was finally born, her lungs had been crushed because I had lost my water a week before she was born. The gynecologist wanted me or the obstetrician to keep from having her. When she was born, she only survived for two days.

It was devastating to me, but, at the time, Morgan was two years old. I was thrilled to get home to Morgan because being in the hospital was so difficult. He didn’t understand where his mom was or why she was there and didn’t see a baby. I had a big stomach. Getting home to Morgan was what saved me and allowed me to heal after the passing of Chelsea. From that moment on, I had one foot here and one foot over on the other side with Chelsea.

I think that any parent who’s had the passing of a child feels the same way that you don’t feel that you are as connected to this world as you used to be. With Morgan, he grew up to be an incredible young man, 6’6” and 280 pounds. He was the star athlete in terms of football, track, shot put, and discus then he became a cheerleader for the University of Arizona. He could flip a girl on one arm and have huge muscles. A great teddy bear of a guy. He loved giving bear hugs.

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He went on a program to study in China. He had already done it once before in Nanjing. During fall break, he wanted to go to Tibet to be able to experience the life and culture of Tibet because they were studying it at the university. He flew to Chengdu first, then from Chengdu, all the way up to Lhasa, which is 11,000 feet, with 13 other kids that were on the program with him.

Usually, you are supposed to only go up an altitude of 2,000 feet a day to be able to stay safe and not catch altitude sickness. They went the next morning in a bus up the mountain to the base camp of Mount Everest, which is about 19,000 feet. As they were making their way up the mountain, everybody was getting sick. They were having to get out of the bus to throw up or hold some of the girls’ heads.

Some of the kids were urinating on the bus, which is another sign of altitude sickness that nobody understood. There were supposed to be two professors on the trip with them. It ended up that they went with a Chinese tour guide who was trying to get them up the mountain as quickly as possible before the sun went down.

By the time they got up to the top of the mountain, Morgan had a terrible migraine. He ate a little, then he went to bed. He was getting up. They were staying in a yurt, which is a big tent that is open. He would wander around and call people by the wrong name, which is also something that’s a sign of altitude sickness but nobody recognized it. The next morning when they were supposed to wake up and go back down the mountain, at 9:00 in the morning, he was foaming at the mouth and no one could wake him up.

One of the kids on the program has a mother who’s a doctor and he called her. She told him, “Get him down the mountain as quickly as possible.” These thirteen kids loaded Morgan onto the bus. A very heavy Morgan onto the bus and started down the mountain. It was at that time that the director called me and said, “We have a problem with Morgan. We are getting him down the mountain as quickly as possible. I’m going to give you his roommate’s cell phone number.”

I was able to call Colin. When I got Colin, I felt like he was incredibly mature because he said, “Ms. Boisson, it doesn’t look good.” By that time, Morgan had stopped breathing. They had gotten him off the bus and he was undergoing CPR. He said, “He’s not breathing. I’m not sure if we are going to be able to save him.” Not only that but none of the kids knew CPR that were on this program.

I told him immediately, it was like a flash, “Please, Colin, put the phone up to his ear,” and he did. I told Morgan that we loved him, we were proud of him, and not to be afraid. Immediately, when I did that. I felt him hug me. It was a world away. I was here in Cave Creek, Arizona. He was at the base camp of Mount Everest but I felt that hug.

I want to say that the reason that I felt the hug I found out later is because, first of all, it’s called a shared death experience that I was experiencing with Morgan. Second of all, Chelsea went home first. She was the first person to greet Morgan when he crossed over. She grabbed his hand and led him to me and allowed him to hug me so quickly.

I have tears in my eyes. What a story.

It’s wonderful. I feel so grateful that this happened to me. I thought that everybody who has a loved one transition was experiencing the same thing. I thought that this probably happened to everyone. I came to realize that not everybody does experience this right away but it is something that our kids and our loved ones want us to experience at some point. I’m sure you know that.

GAR Elizabeth Boisson | Helping Parents Heal

Helping Parents Heal: Not everybody does experience shared death experience right away, but it is something that our kids and our loved ones want us to experience at some point.

There might have been ways that you planned to one day do what you are doing and that was certainly marvelous in its way experience for you to open your eyes and to begin the amazing work that you are doing. We are going to get to that in the interview. I want to explain to everyone that you are called a Shining Light Mom to Morgan and Chelsea and your mom to your daughters Alix and Christine, who are in their twenties. Tell us how the name Shining Light Parent came into being.

I would love to. I feel so grateful because, for a while there, we all felt like we had to call each other bereaved, which is not a very nice word. Bereaved is probably the saddest word in the English dictionary. The three of us were talking. Irene Vouvalides, who’s our Vice President, as well as Suzanne Giesemann, who is a huge supporter of Helping Parents Heal.

Irene and I were saying, “It’s so hard being called bereaved. We don’t like that word. Isn’t there a better word?” Suzanne Giesemann meditated and she came back with a Shining Light Parent, which makes so much sense to us because it doesn’t mean that you are shining a light immediately. What it is saying is that the light of our kids and our loved ones shines through us. Allows us to be able to guide others towards healing as well, so I like that term.

It’s wonderful. It allows for some people are shine a light on siblings or whatever it is who have lost. I’m a shining light widow. My husband shines through me all the time. Producer Craig McMahon, who is a shining light sibling, created and produced the documentary about Helping Parents Heal, titled Life to AfterLife: Mom, can you hear me? He also wrote the introduction to Life to Afterlife: Helping Parents Heal, The Book. In his introduction, Craig says that he is blessed to create platforms to demonstrate all the journeys of the exceptional people he meets. What would you like to share with us about both Craig and his documentary, Life to AfterLife: Mom, can you hear me?

First of all, I want to say that when I first met him, I was cautious because we’d had a lot of people interested in doing documentaries about Helping Parents Heal. I thought, “Here’s another person interested,” but there was something different about Craig. I didn’t even know at the time that he was a shining light sibling, which is what is so different about him. He gets it.

He lost two brothers, right?

Yes. His brother Carrie passed when Craig was only nine years old, in a car accident. His brother Alan passed later on and he committed suicide. Both of those, first of all, made him realize that life is very tenuous and you have to be able to be happy and move forward while you are here. Even more importantly, he understood what his parents were going through.

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He saw the effect of having his two brothers pass on them. The reason is that the first documentary that he created in the whole series is the Life to AfterLife Spirituality series. The first one was Life to AfterLife: Mom, can you hear me? It’s based on seventeen parents from Helping Parents Heal because it’s very near and dear to his heart. I feel very fortunate that he is the person who took this project on and did such a beautiful job of it. I want to say one more thing about Craig.

He’s wonderful because all of us were so idealistic and we thought, “We are going to talk about all the signs that our kids send us,” because there are so many signs that our kids send us. The seventeen parents who were in the documentary were a little bit further down the line. They were getting some big things.

He toned it down for the first documentary because he said, “We don’t want people to be coming after you because you are crazy or what you are saying is too far out there. We will do a 2.0 later on. We will do one that once people are used to seeing this, then we will move on to a bigger version of this with more signs and more incredible things that are happening.” I explained that in the book but then, something else happened, making me decide that I had to write this book.

That’s my next question. My question is, I encourage everyone to be sure to read my interview with the great Medium, Jamie Clark, on the show. Please tell us about the message Jamie received for you on his Psychic Evolution Podcast from your son Morgan that inspired you to write Life to Afterlife – Helping Parents Heal, The book based on Craig’s documentary. How did the kids help the book come together in less than two months? I must be psychic. I knew what you were doing with that.

There were things that were missing. There were a whole bunch of stories that I would tell Craig, a story on the sofa, then it wasn’t there because it was far out there. It was more than what he wanted to put into the original documentary. Jamie was interviewing me. Before the interview started, he said, “Morgan’s here. Morgan’s telling me that he wants you to write a book based on that documentary Life to AfterLife: Mom, can you hear me? He wants all of the parents to write a chapter for the book.”

I thought, “That’s a great idea but how am I going to do this? We have a conference coming up. We are interviewing someone every single night.” I said, “Okay, Jamie, thank you. Thank you, Morgan.” I sent out an email the next day to everyone who was in the documentary, as well as to Craig and the two people who wrote the forwards. Immediately, got everything back. We had a mom who is an incredible editor who isn’t in the documentary, who was willing to edit our book as well and it came out less than two months later. It was driven by the kids. By Morgan and all of our kids.

There are two uplifting forwards, as you said, in Life to Afterlife – Helping Parents Heal, The Book. In the Forward by Author and Spirit Medium Maureen Hancock. She talks about the proof of survival she and her sister received from her nephew Sean moments after he died. There’s a forward by former US Navy Commander turned Author and Professional Medium, Suzanne Giesemann, whom I have had the honor of interviewing on Brief and Rebirth. Suzanne talks about this amazing message given to Helping Parents Heal Vice President Irene Vouvalides by her daughter Carly. “Have you seen the deer yet?” Carly asked from across the vale. Now you have two very special stories to share with all of us.

GAR Elizabeth Boisson | Helping Parents Heal

Life to Afterlife – Helping Parents Heal, The Book: Featuring the Parents of Craig McMahon’s Documentary, ‘Mom, Can You Hear Me?’

I want to say that it’s exciting that all of the people who contributed to this, Maureen Hancock as well as Suzanne Giesemann. Maureen is a shining light aunt, as we would say. Suzanne is a shining light stepmom. Going back to the deer, that was an amazing thing. That was during the documentary. We had all done our portions of interviewing Craig.

In the end, we got together at two of the parents’ houses to do some more filming. Suzanne Giesemann flew in for that as well as Mark Ireland flew in and Irene was there. Picking Irene up at the airport, Suzanne had given her that message. We drove into and it was Carly’s either Angel date or birthday. I think it was her birthday when we were filming.

I had gotten her a card that I’d picked out. I went directly to the shelf and found this rainbow and opened it up. It’s singing Somewhere Over the Rainbow, which is a huge sign for Irene. I thought, “Carly picked that out for her.” Anyway, we get home and right behind our house, along the wall where they never congregate. There are all these deer. They are deer everywhere and it was right next to the casita, which is where I’m sitting now, where Irene was going to be staying.

I started counting the deer and I got up to the number fourteen. I didn’t know about this thing that Suzanne had talked about and Suzanne didn’t understand what the, “Have you seen the deer yet?” They hadn’t seen them yet. When we got together the next day, we talked about the deer. I talked about the fact that there were fourteen of them and there were fourteen kids that day that were being represented in the filming. It all tied so beautifully together.

A great story. I wanted to say it’s such a fabulous story. There’s also the story from Maureen. Wasn’t she devastated when her nephew died but she saw him? There’s a story about how she got proof of survival almost immediately, right?

Almost immediately for her nephew. Maureen is the type of person who would do anything for any parent who has had a child pass. I know now because I never understood it before. She is so giving and so caring. It’s because she’s been through this. If you are a member of a family who has a child who’s passed, even if you are an aunt or an uncle or a brother or a sibling. Having a way to be able to help others is something that adds so much light to all of our lives. Maureen Hancock is one of those huge bright lights. She’s amazing and her forward is beautiful. I will let the readers read about it so that they can see what happened with Ryan.

GAR Elizabeth Boisson | Helping Parents Heal

Helping Parents Heal: If you are a member of a family who has a child who’s passed, being able to help others is something that adds so much light to all of our lives.

That’s right. The stories in this book. You would think that you are reading a book about the losses but it’s about the gains. They find their children on the other side and the amazing experiences they talk about. It’s wonderful. How about telling us some of the amazing signs Morgan and the other kids in the book have sent their parents to help them heal?

There are so many of them and I’m going to start with one that’s not Morgan because I love it so much. That is the one with Laurie Savoie. She’s our secretary for Helping Parents Heal. She’s on the board. She was having a service for her son. They are mostly from Canada and they live down here in Arizona as well. They had all of their Canadian cousins that were around the island in the kitchen.

They had ordered balloons, but there was this one red balloon that broke apart. It was making its way around the group that was standing around the island. Her niece said, “That’s Garrett. He’s around us. He’s going around us. He is just saying hi to everybody.” Her nephew was there. He said, “That’s ridiculous. That’s not Garrett. That’s silly.”

This nephew goes over to a computer that’s against a wall that’s on the other side of this big living room area. The balloon starts making its way across the living room. It gets over to him and it attaches itself to the back of his hair. As he turns one way, it pops over here. As he turns another way, it pops over here and he is shaking it off. He is tapping on the computer, then the balloon goes underneath his arm and pops up in his face.

He’s like, “If this is Garrett, go down that hall to the fridge, in the pantry, and get me a beer and I will believe you.” The balloon went down the hall and everybody in the whole house was following this balloon at this point to the refrigerator. Stuck on the refrigerator like it was magnetic. The cousin opened the refrigerator door, took out a beer, and clicked it open. He said, “Here’s to Garrett,” because it finally made him a believer. How could you not believe that? It’s beautiful.

That’s one story that I love. I have a lot of stories of Morgan saving people’s lives. One of them was a firefighter friend. He had been at the University of Arizona as a cheerleader. He was a Wildcat and his best friend Dan was Wilbur Wildcat. He always wore that huge costume. Anyway, at the end of college, he decided to go back and get his firefighting degree. I don’t think it’s a degree but he became a firefighter.

A certification type of thing, probably.

Yes, that’s probably better. One of the first fires that he was fighting, was in a garage. He and his buddy were going to get the car out of the garage by putting it in neutral and pushing it out of the garage. They had the garage door open. Dan was on the outside. He was going to be pushing the car backward. The other guy was in. He had put it in neutral. All of a sudden, Dan felt these arms come around his chest, pulling him back off his feet to the back of the room or the garage.

An air conditioning unit fell right where he had been standing. The guy that was in the car said, “What just happened?” Dan knew it was Morgan because Morgan always gave the best bear hugs. In fact, in his cheerleading squad, he was called Big Bear because of the huge bear hugs he used to give. Dan knew it was Morgan. He named his first son Barrett Morgan.

I say this because physically, they can do things to keep people from passing. He did this with some cheerleading buddies. This isn’t in the book but a girl and a guy got hit by a car going 60 miles an hour. Their car looked like an accordion. This was the year after Morgan passed and it was up on Facebook. Both of these kids got out of the car without a scratch. They knew. They said they felt Morgan in the car with them, which is amazing. The book is filled with these kinds of things that have happened.

Amazing stories. One is more amazing than the next. Morgan also saved your daughter’s life in Paris, right, Alix? Tell us that one.

Yes, that’s such an amazing story.

That’s unbelievable. It’s believable if you resonate and you understand this world. People who are skeptics are like, “What?” It’s fabulous. What happened with his sister?

She was supposed to go out to a New Year’s Eve party with her cousin and her cousin is French. Her cousin had her boyfriend with her but Alix was going by herself. She had a tiny little cocktail dress on with no sleeves. It was black then she had a coat. She had a purse as well. She checked them in when she got there. They were all the way over on the other side of Paris from where she normally lived, which was in Saint-Germain.

She started feeling sick because she had already had migraine medicine before she left, and then she started drinking. She told aunt Sofie that she was going home and aunt Sofie said, “Go on home.” Didn’t get up off the couch and say, “Maybe I should help you out,” or anything like that. It’s okay, though, but anyway, she hustled out of the place where the party was without getting her coat and her purse either. She did have her phone with her.

She got out to the curb and she jumped into the first taxi that she saw. After they drove for a little while, she realized at the next stop sign that she didn’t recognize the person who was sitting in the passenger seat next to her, so she jumped out. She looked up at the name of the street that was written on the wall, did not recognize it at all and snow started falling.

Here she is in a little tiny cocktail dress and it’s probably 2:00 in the morning. She passed out then. The next thing that she knew, she was waking up in her bed at 9:00 in the morning. Her roommates were shaking her awake, saying, “We got to get the train to go to Portugal. You got to wake up.” She had made it back to her bed. The door had slammed open at 3:00 in the morning, her roommate said. They lived up on the seventh floor of this apartment building, meaning that whoever carried her up there carried her up seven flights of stairs. Alix knew. She knew in her heart that this was Morgan who brought her home.

He saved her life. What happened to her purse and her coat?

Her cousin got all of that stuff for her. Thank heaven. That’s not even important. Thank you.

It’s not but I was curious.

Anyway, that was an amazing story. It’s so interesting because she didn’t tell me that until she was living in London a couple of years later. She didn’t think I’d believe it. She was, first of all, embarrassed that she felt so sick and had to go home after this New Year’s Eve party. Second of all, she thought it was so incredible that there was no way that I would believe that Morgan could have done that but I believe 100% that he did that. There are so many other things too.

You list or your group lists ten ways to heal from the passing of a child toward the end of the book. What would you like people to know about the ten ways to heal and also about Life to Afterlife – Helping Parents Heal, The book? I’m sure there are a few other things you’d like everyone to know.

I would like for people to understand that even though a lot of times people will tell you that it’s impossible to heal from the passing of a child. We know and we are proof that it is possible to heal and that our kids want us to heal. I have written these ten different ways of healing after the passing of a child. I’d love to read the first one because this is indicative of the whole way that we believe or think in Helping Parents Heal, “Know that your child is not gone. The veil that separates you from your son or daughter is as thin as a sheet of paper. When we see them again, we will feel as though not one second has passed.” As Suzanne Giesemann so eloquently puts it, “Our kids are still right here.”

GAR Elizabeth Boisson | Helping Parents Heal

Helping Parents Heal: Even though a lot of times people will tell you that it’s impossible to heal from the passing of a child, we know and we are proof that it is possible to heal, that our kids want us to heal.

This list is a list of learning to communicate, raising our vibration, and surrounding ourselves with friends who understand because there are so many people that you can tell these incredible stories who will say, “That’s crazy. That didn’t happen to you. That was you thinking that that happened.” Being able to express gratitude is also important.

Every morning when I wake up, I am so grateful to be able to start another day and to post all of the kids on our website because I post them for their angel dates and their birthdays. I love doing that. Also, the main thing that allows all of us to heal and I think that you have done this in spades, Irene, is helping others. When we help others, it helps us even more than it’s helping that person. When we reach a hand back and help others forward on this journey, it gives us this energy boost.

It’s true. People say to me all the time, “You are so vibrant. You are so alive.” You are right. This is like this beautiful fuel. I feel so grateful for what I can do and people are thrilled with that. They are reading the interviews and are getting so much help. We are sisters of a feather. We didn’t ask for this assignment or maybe we did before we were in the flesh here. We have been through our trials and it’s so wonderful to be able to tell people you can make it through.

It is. It’s so wonderful to be able to be proof because you are proof and I’m proof. When I have people on Helping Parents Heal saying, “I’m not going to get through this. There’s no way that I can get through this.” I say, “You are going to make it through this. We are going to help you but we are proof that it’s possible to move through this and heal because we were in the same place that you were.” It is something that we can all do and we need to help each other to do it. We can’t do it alone.

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True. This leads me to Helping Parents Heal is having this incredible conference in Phoenix, Arizona, in August 2023. I am looking forward to interviewing the presenters and sharing their insights with our show’s readers. What would you like to tell our audience about the conference? Speak away, Elizabeth. What would you like people to know?

First of all, I would love to say that Irene Vouvalides is the originator of the conference. She is our conference director but I work every day with her to make this a success. I am so thrilled that you are going to be there. We have 814 people who are signed up now. The last conference that we had in Phoenix included 500 people. It will be bigger but it’s a much bigger space. It’s a beautiful space as well.

We have some incredible presenters and incredible healers who are going to be there. I’m excited that you are going to be interviewing all of those people. All of that information is on our website at Under resources, there’s a conference tab and it has all of our presenters with their bios and their pictures as well. If anyone would be interested in joining us, we don’t have a lot of space left but we would love to have you. We also have scholarship opportunities available. If you are interested, please let Irene or me know.

That’s Irene V. As opposed to me, Irene W. but I will be interviewing a lot of the presenters there. This is what’s important to me that people know. Not only that they get the book but they know about the conference because fortunately but unfortunately, we will all meet people. There’s a good likelihood we will meet other people going through these kinds of things.

It’s so great to know that there is a resource like Helping Parents Heal that can help people. To know this, I have told new people who lost children or have had experiences. I have guided quite a few people to your site and all. Vice versa, people are constantly guiding people to the show. It’s all a community that wants the help.

I agree and it sure is nice to have this during COVID. As I say, having these resources, having your show that now has over 100,000 views. Congratulations on that.

Thank you. I’m so humbled and grateful all the time. The same as you, I went through something and something beautiful is coming from it. It’s amazing. I wake up every day like you, Elizabeth. What would you like to tell parents about the possibility of healing on the passing of the child? How do their children help them to heal?

It’s important for all parents to understand that our kids, first of all, are happy, healthy, and home. We are still in school, we are still learning things but our kids work together to connect with us in the same way that we work to connect with them. Their vibration is a little bit different. They have different vibrations. We have to raise our vibration to be able to communicate with them but you don’t have to be a medium to connect with our children.

I get hugs all the time from Morgan and Chelsea. I get goosebumps all the time when I know that they want me to get information that I have understood from them. I get these goosebumps and I realize, “Yes, that’s them.” It doesn’t have to be from Chelsea and Morgan. It can be from all different kids because there are 20,000 parents in our group now.

Which is amazing and that bears repeating. Helping Parents Heal now has 20,000 parents. It’s incredible.

At least that many kids and probably more. I have two myself. The kids work together and learn together. Not only that, they are all great friends but they all learn together to communicate with us.

You mentioned the website. I’m going to have you tell people that again. Where will the money earned by this book go to help parents and families heal?

We are using this book. This book is something that we feel is done by all of us at Helping Parents Heal. It’s the seventeen parents who were in the documentary. There are 3 chapters written by 3 board members who were far away at the time. It wasn’t possible for them to fly to Phoenix to be interviewed but it is something that we wanted to be able to give back to our parents.

Every penny that’s earned goes towards scholarships or other things that are needed in Helping Parents Heal. We already have, for the conference itself, about 80 parents who are coming on scholarships. We are hoping to have even more. We are very excited about that because it’s important to have these resources for parents to be able to move forward, heal, and find hope.

To find healing. I would imagine this is what gives you joy in life but is there anything else? Do you have any other tips for finding joy in life?

The thing that makes me the most joyful is helping someone else. That sounds maybe a little bit trite but I feel very fortunate. I’m a caring listener. Irene is a caring listener as well. Caring listeners in Helping Parents Heal, there are 31 of us. We take calls from parents who might not be doing very well. We are not professionals or counselors but we work toward lifting their spirits and letting them know that their kids are still right here. That call is one of my favorite times of the day.

I wasn’t surprised to read Life to Afterlife – Helping Parents Heal, The book that according to the Reverend Andrew M. Greeley, a Sociologist at the University of Chicago, 81% of Americans now believe in the afterlife. There continues to be growing interest in life after death. Helping Parents Heal is unique because it offers an enlightened area of relief for the grief that accompanies the death of a child. It illustrates over and over again that it is indeed possible to survive the passing of a child, to heal, and to find rebirth. Life to Afterlife – Helping Parents Heal, The book beautifully reveals that our loved ones on the other side are indeed happy, healthy, and whole.

I encourage members of our readers to watch the YouTube documentary Life to AfterLife: Mom, can you hear me? Be sure to read the very uplifting Life to Afterlife – Helping Parents Heal, The book, especially because every penny earned by the book goes towards helping grieving parents and families to heal.

Elizabeth, knowing that your greatest joy comes from reaching a hand back to help others move forward. I can truly say that I have experienced great joy getting to know you and the incredible people associated with Helping Parents Heal. Thank you from my heart for this wonderful uplifting interview. Here’s a reminder, everyone, to make sure to follow us and like us on social, @IreneSWeinberg on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube. As I like to say, to be continued. Many blessings. Bye for now.

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